2014 Bahrain Grand Prix

[Mysticf1]

So now can we forget about that silly idea that F1 needs marginal tyres? Epic race indeed

Dan Ricciardo certainly is making people stand up and notice, another top performance. I don't know if Vettel really had an issue, I couldn't see a noticeable difference following Dan, it just seems there is always a reason, time will reveal the true situation.

[Juzh]

but i highly doubt it.

Just out of curiosity, why do you doubt it? We have Vettel on the radio saying he's got no power, and we have Ted Kravitz saying he's had an mgu-h malfunction.
You also doubted alonso's power loss in quali then?

Here's a race speed trap data: top 6 cars are mercedes powered, but you can easily put hamilton in there as well because he never used DRS in the race:
race speed trap

[Joker]

sry same post

[Shrieker]

Overall this was the best dry race we have seen in a very long time. There was a lot of action up and down the field.

Though, in my opinion, I think that Hamilton's defense was dirty and disrespectful to his team mate. He showed a lot more sense and respect to Button in his Mclaren days.
The chopping across Nico was extremely stupid and he could have destroyed a certain 1-2 finish for the team by taking Nico's front wing off and puncturing his rear tire leaving them both an entire lap to limp home to replace the wing and tire on the respective cars.

I thought Hamilton went over the line more than a couple of times today. They went into the 4th corner side by side 4 or 5 times and when Hamilton was on the inside he always pushed Nico out of the track to make sure he couldn't get a proper drive. It wasn't fair driving. Remember that Schumacher was like that too in his heyday (and even more so) and that -ruthlessness to say- got him to record titles, wins and poles. I'm not all for 'win at all costs' though.

I watched sky's (Natalie's) interview with Rosberg. At the end of it, Natalie said to him jokingly whether he thought of landing a left hook on Hamilton's stomach referring to the rather odd 'hugging' incident between Nico and Lewis after the race. Rosberg, with a very serious face and sound i might say, replied by saying he was swearing all things to Hamilton so hard through the helmet that he was glad that the press guys couldn't hear any of it. That should sum up what he thought about Hamilton's driving today. Not to mention he complained (rightfully) over the radio in regards to the 'chopping' you mentioned when it happened.

Racecraft wise Hamilton was Heathcliff and Rosberg was Edgar Linton today.

[Shrieker]

Just out of curiosity, why do you doubt it?

Maybe it could be something about not being able to harvest as efficiently -as a fellow member has pointed out-, but i highly doubt it.

'Not being able to harvest as efficiently' as in something to do with driver skill.

https://twitter.com/FakeRonDennis_/stat ... 9311678464

I just saw this. LOL.

Was there at the race today. Was absolutely a blast to watch!!! So much overtaking. Teammate fights! Car flips! Safety car. Was close to turn one and the action was intense! Season is looking good!

Come on now There was only one flip. But at least it got done proper lol

[Joker]

Alonso did not celebrate because he finished in front of Kimi - he also did the last two races, so there is no point to link his action with Kimi. It was rather a gesture to Domenicali, Montezemolo and the Ferrari team, which meant like:

Look where the prancing horse drives around. Nowhere near the front. 3 points. Job done. He was rather sarcastic and when I watch it over and over it gets even funnier. Gallows humour

[dans79]

I watched sky's (Natalie's) interview with Rosberg. At the end of it, Natalie said to him jokingly whether he thought of landing a left hook on Hamilton's stomach referring to the rather odd 'hugging' incident between Nico and Lewis after the race. Rosberg, with a very serious face and sound i might say, replied by saying he was swearing all things to Hamilton so hard through the helmet that he was glad that the press guys couldn't hear any of it. That should sum up what he thought about Hamilton's driving today. Not to mention he complained (rightfully) over the radio in regards to the 'chopping' you mentioned when it happened.

I think this was something to stir up the press, because if he had said it loud enough for Ham to hear it the press would have heard it for sure.

[Shrieker]

I'm not so sure. Nico's face and tone spoke volumes me thinks... I feel if it comes to it, next time he ain't taking no sh!t from Lewis. Things will be getting very interesting this season.

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The most recent i can remember is the shumacher Hamilton battle in china. or the Webber, Alosno Hamilton in nurburg ring, epic stuff.

And Webber vs. Hamilton in Korea Although it didn't last many laps, they were side by side for a good half a lap weren't they...

[zeph]

I'd agree that Hamilton's defensive moves weren't always 100% clean, and I didn't see Rosberg do anything particularly dirty or reckless. Under scrutiny, I think at least one of Hamilton's moves would be deemed illegal, when he pushed Rosberg off the track. But it happened so fast I can't be sure whether he kept his line and Rosberg ran out of room, or that he indeed squeezed him off.

Still, it was great racing, and with Rosberg's advantage, I think he had the opportunity but couldn't make it stick. So all in all, I think Hamilton did earn it.

[markn93]

Rosberg actually got upset when Lewis cut across him on his first cut-back at T1, the stuff at T4 every driver would do to another. You aren't going to pass any of these top guys around the outside through there, it's racing, not giving up your racing line, non issue I think.

[Shrieker]

But aren't you supposed to be leaving at least a car's width when you're battling with someone no matter what ? I thought the FIA cleared that up last season.

[myurr]

So now can we forget about that silly idea that F1 needs marginal tyres? Epic race indeed

Dan Ricciardo certainly is making people stand up and notice, another top performance. I don't know if Vettel really had an issue, I couldn't see a noticeable difference following Dan, it just seems there is always a reason, time will reveal the true situation.

The tyres were perfect today. Strategy split between 2 and 3 stops with tyres that you could really push on with nice linear degradation. Bravo Pirelli.

Vettel had an issue but still I think Ricciardo delivered a stellar drive and is really going to give Vettel a very close run for his money this year.

[myurr]

But aren't you supposed to be leaving at least a car's width when you're battling with someone no matter what ? I thought the FIA cleared that up last season.

You're still allowed to push across on corner exit whilst following the racing line, which is all Hamilton did. He always left room on corner entry and just outwitted Rosberg with some amazing defending. Amazing drive from them both.

[Racer X]

Sergio Perez really drove good today I think

[markn93]

But aren't you supposed to be leaving at least a car's width when you're battling with someone no matter what ? I thought the FIA cleared that up last season.

I don't think so when you have the corner. No idea tbh what the exact wording is, but if that's the case what about Massa squeezing Hulkenberg a la Rosberg/Lewis in 2012 (I think it was). Sure there were many more examples, also lots of drivers made a couple of moves when defending, it seems if the car behind has a look down the inside, drawing the defending car across the track, then the attacking car goes back to take the racing line for a better exit, the defending car drifts over to cover it off. Thought this wasn't really allowed.