I think it's more like this in terms of softness: 2013 > 2012 > 2014 > 2011.Pierce89 wrote:I was of the understanding that 2014 had the hardest compounds Pirelli have used.
Pirelli just need to sort it out for next year. But they have made this years tires with a safety margin in mind. Because off the lack of data from the Mercedes, Renault and Ferrari. But these have also made this tires harder with the rapid development during this year in the back of their mind. If teams find 2s or 3s during the season they might get in the right window off-operatin during the last few races of the season. I haven't heard Red Bull or Mercedes complain about the tires so the teams with low downforce are getting punished extra hard because they can generate the same energy as the top guys.Juzh wrote:I think it's more like this in terms of softness: 2013 > 2012 > 2014 > 2011.Pierce89 wrote:I was of the understanding that 2014 had the hardest compounds Pirelli have used.
Tires may seem harder this year because cars are so slow they don't really put any stress into them. We had it the other way round in 2013. Cars got much faster compared to 2012 along with even softer tires resulted in cars chewing them up.
These pictures are stunning and totally agree Monaco is a pretty special place and great when the F1 boys are in townPhil wrote:Spotted these pictures in the W05 thread and just had to repost these. Such stunning pictures of a stunning car. I love Monaco! Wish I could be there...
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/u ... 014-41.jpg
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We're talking about Formula 1 right? What percentage are they slower compared to how much slower, say, a high-performance road car is? Can you actually tell the difference without a side-by-side comparison? There may be several reasons why they're slightly less fast: different tyres, less downforce, heavier cars, new generation of regulations. I don't really see the significance of comparing them. How is it any different from other changes that were deliberately meant to slow the cars down for safety reasons? It just seems like another "lets complain about how F1 is going down the toilet" (boring/ugly/quiet) argument.Juzh wrote:...cars are so slow...
The people who are moaning about F1 being slower have never driven an F1 car. They have no idea about how difficult an F1 car is to drive.ChrisDanger wrote:We're talking about Formula 1 right? What percentage are they slower compared to how much slower, say, a high-performance road car is?Juzh wrote:...cars are so slow...
Senna's death had nothing to do with the engine producing too much HP..johnsonwax wrote: Should we have ignored Senna's death and demanded another 3 tenths? Should we keep pushing even when we have a season when there is not a single on-track pass? I'm just curious under what circumstances it's acceptable to not go faster?
Just_a_fan wrote:The people who are moaning about F1 being slower have never driven an F1 car. They have no idea about how difficult an F1 car is to drive.ChrisDanger wrote:We're talking about Formula 1 right? What percentage are they slower compared to how much slower, say, a high-performance road car is?Juzh wrote:...cars are so slow...
People moan about change because it is different. It's different and therefore scary.
"Ooh, F1 is soooo slow these days!" Fine, you don't like F1 today? Then how about you --- off and watch something else?
You don't care about F1's relative performance compared to last year - you care about change. And people who are hung up on change will never be happy...