2014 Monaco Grand Prix

[Mandrake]

Best thing about this whole topic: The "Lewis Hamilton Massive Supporter Meter" can be calibrated very well. I get very consistent failure proof readings here

[gray41]

Will they take in that he essentially spoilt a few other drivers attempts to go faster too?

We don't know where he was on the corner when Kvyat went by.

[beelsebob]

Right, which is why what he should have done is driven to the end of the escape road, like any sane driver would have.

This is why I think he'll get a penalty, I guess its a question of the severity.

Penalty points, 3 place drop, 10 place drop or DSQ from qualifying?

even if ros would have parked it at the end it is dangerous. Imagine a car losing control sliding into the exit while rosberg is getting out.....there will always be flags.

There have been several instances where cars have been parked at the end of that slip road for an entire race, with green flags.

[QLDriver]

Lewis had only just entered sector 2, and he was down on Nico. Not possible that he picked up two tenths in just entering the sector.

As I understand it, the "dash display" is not relative to other drivers - it's relative to the best lap the driver has done so far. If Lewis was up by two tenths on his previous best, and was 0.059 slower on his previous best than pole, then surely he would have been in with a great shot at getting pole?

[Mandrake]

even if ros would have parked it at the end it is dangerous. Imagine a car losing control sliding into the exit while rosberg is getting out.....there will always be flags.

but there won't always be a car reversing back onto the track which is more of the problem

Of course, reversing does not make it any better. But the yellow flags will be out as long as the car is somewhere in that area AND the driver is still in. Not sure what happened if the driver was out already, but for an oncoming car, a parked car is also dangerous.

[NathanOlder]

Why do people have problems when members on this forum are fans and biased towards their driver? Every single person on this forum, is biased in 1 way or another towards certain drivers or teams. So when someone is biased, why do we get these people banging on about fanboys ect ? when they are equally a fanboy themselves.

[Stradivarius]

I think this all boils down to a gut feeling, whether or not Rosberg did this on purpose. I think you can study telemetry all day and all night without finding any evidence that he did it on purpose or that he didn't do it on purpose. Rosberg said it himself, that he had already basically secured a front row start, and on the final attempt he tried to improve on a near perfect lap which meant driving very close to the limit. That means braking too late is not at all unlikely. At the same time, knowing that Hamilton came behind him, a yellow flag would be in his interest.

By the way, why was Hamilton behind him? Didn't Hamilton have the advantage of driving last in Barcelona as well? I would think it to be fair if they alternated, especially since the Mercedes team mates are the two obvious championship contenders.

[Mandrake]

Will they take in that he essentially spoilt a few other drivers attempts to go faster too?

We don't know where he was on the corner when Kvyat went by.

This happens everywhere. Somebody having a problem, yellow flags appear and for the drivers that are unlucky to get by immediately it is bad luck. Had Rosberg been last he would not have made anyone worse off. Not his fault he was going for it not as the last driver.

[FoxHound]

For me, having seen it live on TV it looked like a genuine error. That section is part of S2 in which Hamilton was quicker.
Is it too difficult to fathom that Rosberg was pushing too hard and didnt want to lose a front wing, thereby automatically deleting everyone's final effort in qualy?

[astracrazy]

even if ros would have parked it at the end it is dangerous. Imagine a car losing control sliding into the exit while rosberg is getting out.....there will always be flags.

but there won't always be a car reversing back onto the track which is more of the problem

Of course, reversing does not make it any better. But the yellow flags will be out as long as the car is somewhere in that area AND the driver is still in. Not sure what happened if the driver was out already, but for an oncoming car, a parked car is also dangerous.

i think they would of gone green if he stayed at the end of the escape road. its quiet deep and out the way - we will never know because he reversed back onto the track which impeded drivers and kept the yellow flags

[turbof1]

Why do people have problems when members on this forum are fans and biased towards their driver? Every single person on this forum, is biased in 1 way or another towards certain drivers or teams. So when someone is biased, why do we get these people banging on about fanboys ect ? when they are equally a fanboy themselves.

Correct. I don't really believe anybody expressed an opinion that dripped with any fanboyism. There are arguments for both sides to believe; that one believes the other doesn't mean he is a fanboy.

So for everybody: please respect the other's opinion. You might see it from your point of view, until the stewards made a decision I'd like to call this "Schrodinger's Monaco", so please refrain from making anything black and white.

[Phillyred]

Being a LH fan, I had pretty much conceded qualifying to Nico. I just wish Lewis could have gotten that last lap in fairly regardless. If Nico doesn't get a penalty you can bet they will be engineering a master pitstop/tire strategy for Lewis for tomorrow.

[gray41]

Ericcson handed pit-lane start.

[GrandAxe]

If they've been summoned does that mean penalty impending?

The Charlie Whiting has all the telemetry, so I imagine that there's something they want to clear with Mercedes. If that's the case, then it suggests that Rosberg is being investigated for faking the crash; and the reversing might be added sorrow.

[beelsebob]

Ericcson handed pit-lane start.

Well deserved. His crash with Massa was ridiculous.