2014 Monaco Grand Prix

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ringo
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My take on this is that Rosberg locking up was a mistake, but how he managed it was calculated. He had a lot of time to regain control and make the turn. Upon deciding to go left, he could have went in deeper and the yellows may have just blinked and not stay on.
Reversing takes the cake however. It made no sense whatsoever. Looking on how he was celebrating after as well, kinds of leaves a bad taste...

Any how, a lot can happen tomorrow. Hamilton is still a brute on track, especially when it comes to hunting down a leading car.
He has forced Rosberg into errors many times by just being on track with him for qualifying, so imagine how much more will he force him into errors if he's in his mirrors?
Maybe we see some wall kisses and more lock ups in the chase.

This wont be an easy win for Rosberg, he's basically put himself in a cage with a pitbull that is hamilton for 66 laps.
Hamilton will try to take him in the tunnel, coming out of the tunnel, into turn 1.. etc. etc. Rosberg's gonna need eyes in the back of his head and some adderall.
For Sure!!

notsofast
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Nice pictures on the BBC website from previous F1 races at Monaco.

http://www.bbc.com/news/in-pictures-27526445

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notsofast wrote:Nice pictures on the BBC website from previous F1 races at Monaco.

http://www.bbc.com/news/in-pictures-27526445

the guardian had some nice ones too

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/galler ... x-pictures

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personal favourite from the gallery

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De Jokke
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Well that was some qualy :roll: .
What a pity that we had that anti-climax. Was it on purpose, only Rosberg knows.

My opinion: at first I thought, no way, he's too nice of a boy to do that. But then looking back at some footage, the steering wheel corrections are just to weird... so yes I think he's quilty. The stewards just wiped it under the table to have a race tomorrow at the front with the two mercs.

I feel sorry for Lewis as I think that he would have taken pole in his final attempt but we'll never know. At least he's man enough to admit that he made life difficult for himself and that he should have done it in his first attempt.

I'm a bit concerned about the start tomorrow as Lewis was fuming... I hope he has cooled down a bit when the race starts. Please don't do something silly guys, I want to see a merc double tomorrow! Not a double DNF. Now is the time to sprint away from the competition. The senna - prost battles can wait till later in the season. First secure a healthy (almost impossible to bridge) gap in the standings, then the rest.

I'm hoping of course for an epic battle where Lewis passes Nico on track after several attempts but where both merc survive and get a 1-2 for the team. I hope I'm going to be right [-o< [-o< [-o<
Mercedes AMG + Hamilton => dreamteam!
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Are the pole man start from the right or left side of the track in Monaco ?

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Right side, left as you look at it on tv.

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seeraz wrote:Are the pole man start from the right or left side of the track in Monaco ?
Right side. They start with the inside line on St Devote. 2nd place needs to either cut under or try and pass on the outside. They're best off slotting in behind the leader and blocking 3rd place so they don't get punted into the tire wall by the inside driver.

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Mercedes AMG + Hamilton => dreamteam!
If you can't beat'em, call Masi!

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thomin wrote:And why? Only to vilify Rosberg? Really, is that what you need in order to enjoy F1? I seriously get the feeling that the media (particularly the British) and many fans desperately want another Prost/Senna storyline and they seize every opportunity to construct that narrative. Interviews by Lewis are blown out of proportion and ludicrous headlines are printed that don't encapsulate at all what was being said, so now Rosberg retaliating by playing dirty fits in perfectly into that narrative. But then I rather enjoy the real thing in front of me than the fairy tale.

+1

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De Jokke wrote:Well that was some qualy :roll: .
What a pity that we had that anti-climax. Was it on purpose, only Rosberg knows.

My opinion: at first I thought, no way, he's too nice of a boy to do that. But then looking back at some footage, the steering wheel corrections are just to weird... so yes I think he's quilty. The stewards just wiped it under the table to have a race tomorrow at the front with the two mercs.
When you watch the analysis done by Sky, they show nicely that the steering wheel jiggles came right after he started breaking. He was breaking under load, slightly turning to the left, bottomed out, then immediately corrected that by quickly turning right, then left again. Then he tried to steer right again to get around the corner at which point the front right tire locked up and he was going straight, so he decided to turn left and go into the run-off area instead of crashing the car.

In short: Rosberg's steering motions were perfectly in line with an honest mistake. While that's not enough to prove the virtue of his intentions 100%, it's rather a piece of evidence in his favor than the opposite.

If he really wanted to cause a yellow flag, I would at the very least expect him to omit that last turn to the right, as he never would have wanted to go around that corner. But then there would have been better, less suspicious ways to cause a yellow flag anyway, like driving off his front wing.
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n smikle wrote:I want Lewis to CRUSH Rosberg tomorrow... and I want him to do it on pure pace and overtaking alone.
I'm not a Lewis fan but I'd like to see that too!

IMO Monaco + Senna = total domination and that is what Lewis prolly meant.

Failing that if Lewis does get silly and takes out Nico it's be the perfect place for Dan to take his first F1 win. :D
"In downforce we trust"

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De Jokke
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thomin wrote:
De Jokke wrote:Well that was some qualy :roll: .
What a pity that we had that anti-climax. Was it on purpose, only Rosberg knows.

My opinion: at first I thought, no way, he's too nice of a boy to do that. But then looking back at some footage, the steering wheel corrections are just to weird... so yes I think he's quilty. The stewards just wiped it under the table to have a race tomorrow at the front with the two mercs.
When you watch the analysis done by Sky, they show nicely that the steering wheel jiggles came right after he started breaking. He was breaking under load, slightly turning to the left, bottomed out, then immediately corrected that by quickly turning right, then left again. Then he tried to steer right again to get around the corner at which point the front right tire locked up and he was going straight, so he decided to turn left and go into the run-off area instead of crashing the car.

In short: Rosberg's steering motions were perfectly in line with an honest mistake. While that's not enough to prove the virtue of his intentions 100%, it's rather a piece of evidence in his favor than the opposite.

If he really wanted to cause a yellow flag, I would at the very least expect him to omit that last turn to the right, as he never would have wanted to go around that corner. But then there would have been better, less suspicious ways to cause a yellow flag anyway, like driving off his front wing.
I saw it all.
Rosberg tried to force the car to become unstable by wobbling the wheel. Well he succeeded. A shame but he's half German, right...
BTW: Herbert thinks the same way about the steering wheel action of Nico. :roll:

Also, when parking it, he should have gotten out of the car. It was safe there. What was he thinking? Indeed, let's stretch this yellow flags by reversing.

ps: As Silverarrow10 pointed out: it was Rosberg who cracked today. Lewis is getting to him and this time (Lewis on his way for another pole) he snapped...
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Mercedes AMG + Hamilton => dreamteam!
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Does anyone have a video of Rosberg reversing out of the escape road?

I think he wanted to do a Kimi (Brazil 13), but that escape road had enough room for a 180, while this one didnt

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George-Jung wrote:
Phillyred wrote:I guess Nico was "hungrier?" ;)
Hahaha +1
Hamilton should never had said that.

Clever Nico!
He never once said he was hungrier than Rosberg, he said "the hunger is different".

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Well, IF Nico did it on purpose, he would have my approval. He had the guts to do it.