Ferrari F14T

[miguelalvesreis]

As far as I understand it, Ferrari is using Marussia to test that solution and perfect it before they use it on their car.

They've(Marussia) had the solution since Bahrain and have improved upon it since then. I don't buy that Marussia simply testing & perfecting it for Ferrari. Ferrari has the resources to make & test the exhaust cover without needing a guinea pig. It wouldn't be the first time a customer team has jumped ahead of Ferrari with particular updates here & there. Just my opinion.

Maybe they need in this case. There is a greater risk, this year, due to max allowed number of engines and parts.
Keeping the heat on the exausts may lead to increased stress on the turbine. May happen that can not be accuratelly reproduced in the test bench.

[Crucial_Xtreme]

Maybe they need in this case. There is a greater risk, this year, due to max allowed number of engines and parts.
Keeping the heat on the exausts may lead to increased stress on the turbine. May happen that can not be accuratelly reproduced in the test bench.

The team is allowed straightline tests and there have been numerous test sessions, Spain & Silverstone where they could've test an exhaust cover. They have chose not to for one reason or another. I don't want to argue back & forth because I'm not privy to the teams plans and inner workings. But the team has had ample time to test such a solution themselves if they wished to do so. The benefits of an exhaust cover that works is something the F14 T needs in a bad way and one would think with their severe need to improve the car they would've introduced their own solution by now, unless of course they didn't truly think about implementing it until recently.

[Kiril Varbanov]

Detailed analysis of F14T by Mark Hughes feat. illustrations from G. Piola:
http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/f1/fe ... 4-secrets/

Another take from Mark on why the aerodynamic failures of the F14 T have led to a power vacuum at Ferrari - http://www1.skysports.com/f1/report/220 ... -the-f14-t (the video content may be limited to UK only)

[monsi]

Detailed analysis of F14T by Mark Hughes feat. illustrations from G. Piola:
http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/f1/fe ... 4-secrets/

Another take from Mark on why the aerodynamic failures of the F14 T have led to a power vacuum at Ferrari - http://www1.skysports.com/f1/report/220 ... -the-f14-t (the video content may be limited to UK only)

I don't fully follow the suggested conclusions of the first link. Any extra space from moving the oil tank would surely have been equally suitable for a mercedes style layout. If they have under-specced the compressor then I can't see how this logically follows as a conclusion from the oil tank movement, it could be a separate issue, perhaps resulting from losing an internal argument with the aero team. The video link highlights the potential balance problems that arise from the movement, which I can understand, the logical place to place fluid reservoirs of any size would be close to the CoG I would imagine. I can well understand the team dynamic issues that may have resulted though - if aero people have stomped over their colleagues to get their way, and it has not paid off at all then their internal reputation will be mud.

Two follow on issues to explore perhaps, the effect of the increase of the wheelbase, and the effect of having the reservoir well away from the CoG.

[diffuser]

Maybe they need in this case. There is a greater risk, this year, due to max allowed number of engines and parts.
Keeping the heat on the exausts may lead to increased stress on the turbine. May happen that can not be accuratelly reproduced in the test bench.

The team is allowed straightline tests and there have been numerous test sessions, Spain & Silverstone where they could've test an exhaust cover. They have chose not to for one reason or another. I don't want to argue back & forth because I'm not privy to the teams plans and inner workings. But the team has had ample time to test such a solution themselves if they wished to do so. The benefits of an exhaust cover that works is something the F14 T needs in a bad way and one would think with their severe need to improve the car they would've introduced their own solution by now, unless of course they didn't truly think about implementing it until recently.

This artical from autosprint claims they had 1 ready for Canada but it was Blocked by the FIA.
http://autosprint.corrieredellosport.it ... ica/17743/

[diffuser]

Another great artical on the different Ferrari Engine covers and what they might be trying to do.

http://www.blogf1.it/2014/07/29/cofano- ... mperatura/


BTW to emmepi27 ...do you write that blog ?

[timbo]

This artical from autosprint claims they had 1 ready for Canada but it was Blocked by the FIA.
http://autosprint.corrieredellosport.it ... ica/17743/

The google translate returns "paint" for "vernice". Are there other meanings? E.g. insulation, cover etc?

[emmepi27]

Another great artical on the different Ferrari Engine covers and what they might be trying to do.
http://www.blogf1.it/2014/07/29/cofano- ... mperatura/
BTW to emmepi27 ...do you write that blog ?

Yep! Only technical analysis!
In this article i speak about only of another hypothesis of the bigger cooling exit reason. I suppose that it is not only for cooling but also for aerodynamic reason (heat to help rear wing).

[diffuser]

This artical from autosprint claims they had 1 ready for Canada but it was Blocked by the FIA.
http://autosprint.corrieredellosport.it ... ica/17743/

The google translate returns "paint" for "vernice". Are there other meanings? E.g. insulation, cover etc?

I've always seen "vernice" translated into varnish. At any rate we all understand it to be some substance resembling a coat of paint having heat shielding properties.

[diffuser]

Another great artical on the different Ferrari Engine covers and what they might be trying to do.
http://www.blogf1.it/2014/07/29/cofano- ... mperatura/
BTW to emmepi27 ...do you write that blog ?

Yep! Only technical analysis!
In this article i speak about only of another hypothesis of the bigger cooling exit reason. I suppose that it is not only for cooling but also for aerodynamic reason (heat to help rear wing).

I like your stuff ...keep it up Bravo bravo!

[PhillipM]

This artical from autosprint claims they had 1 ready for Canada but it was Blocked by the FIA.
http://autosprint.corrieredellosport.it ... ica/17743/

The google translate returns "paint" for "vernice". Are there other meanings? E.g. insulation, cover etc?

I've always seen "vernice" translated into varnish. At any rate we all understand it to be some substance resembling a coat of paint having heat shielding properties.

Zircotech then?

Baffling why something similar wasn't there from day one to be honest.

[timbo]

The google translate returns "paint" for "vernice". Are there other meanings? E.g. insulation, cover etc?

I've always seen "vernice" translated into varnish. At any rate we all understand it to be some substance resembling a coat of paint having heat shielding properties.

Zircotech then?

Baffling why something similar wasn't there from day one to be honest.

Well, if it is really some kind of coating it is all more interesting that Marussia actually used some sort of wrapping around the pipes.

[emmepi27]

Hungarian front brake duct (Amus)

[eslam1986]

photo of Ferrari engine exhaust with heat cover in marussia car

[George-Jung]

But that is not a coating, but an exhaust insulation wrap..