2014 Italian GP - Monza, September 5-7

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Ric's top speed probably was in a perfectly timed -and possibly a multiple car- tow. I'm surprised people are reading so much into it.
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prince wrote: If you don't like, you report it by hitting that "Report" button, but do not generalize the whole forum with negative remark.
You are right, my remark could be misunderstood.
I modified my post. I didn't want to generalize but was referring to that particular post (plus a few but fortunately not many others).
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I sure would love to have a look at Rosberg's mistakes from the on board cam where he ran on in the first chicane.
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Shrieker wrote:I sure would love to have a look at Rosberg's mistakes from the on board cam where he ran on in the first chicane.
Looked indeed a bit strange. As if he didn't even try to turn in. Didn't lock the brakes either.

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henra wrote:
Shrieker wrote:I sure would love to have a look at Rosberg's mistakes from the on board cam where he ran on in the first chicane.
Looked indeed a bit strange. As if he didn't even try to turn in. Didn't lock the brakes either.
He did lock the brakes slightly, but decided not to try too hard.

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WilliamsF1 wrote:Looked like the NR LH battle was fixed
My first thought was that his first missed braking point was just testing the water to see what he needed to do. The second one was done just to let Hamilton by and he knew exactly what and when to do it. 2 lockups in the same place and then after Hamilton passes,he never had another issue in turn 1.

I'll remove my tinfoil hat now.

Not sure if I 100% believe what I just wrote, but I thought it. :wtf:

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Nico locked his brakes in both instances but he was smart and prevented a flat spot and another pit stop so early into the stint, its as simple as that.

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Come on guys if Rosberg did such a thing people would lose all respect for him and he would be branded as a yellow bellied coward. He has never won in Monza before why would he give up position to his Championship rival? And it is not the first time Rosberg has locked up at the end of straights this season, he has locked up in Australia, Bahrain, Malaysia, China, Monaco, Canada. he has been locking brakes all over the calendar. He is simply on the limit that is all.
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ecapox wrote:Not sure if I 100% believe what I just wrote, but I thought it. :wtf:
I thought it too. It just seemed strange that only one car would miss that turn, and not only once, but twice. (Not counting Kvyat's brake failure.)

The frustrating thing is that Hamilton can do this three more times, and he will still be behind in the championship. Regardless of who wins the WDC, I would have liked to see the lead switching back and forth more often.

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henra wrote:
Shrieker wrote:I sure would love to have a look at Rosberg's mistakes from the on board cam where he ran on in the first chicane.
Looked indeed a bit strange. As if he didn't even try to turn in. Didn't lock the brakes either.
I think he locked the rears slightly, twice, and didn't try to turn in with that.
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You conspiracy theorists are well off.

The correct conspiracy is that Lewis' tyres that he locked up into turn 1 with during quali, were put on Rosberg's car during the pit stop.

This then o creased Rosberg's chances of locking up in the hardest braking point on the circuit and bingo, 'multi 446'.
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There is a real mess at Caterham, they brought in Kobayashi in for one reason, to beat Jules Bianchi. That's exactly what he did today after spending a race off, and he's done it many times this season, and they are selling his seat!. It must be full survival mode for them, they don't care about trying to beat the people around them.
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matt_b wrote:Nico locked his brakes in both instances but he was smart and prevented a flat spot and another pit stop so early into the stint, its as simple as that.
The first time I could understand but the second time he was fighting for the lead and thus the win. Was surprised that he didn't even try to make it.
I don't really believe either that it was on purpose to let Hamilton through, I just found it strange.
He lost a couple of seconds on Hamilton in the subsequent laps which then suddenly stabilised again.
Over practically the whole race the lap time differential between Hamilton and Rosberg was <2/10 max. Then Rosberg lost 6s in a few laps (<<10) and then it stabilised again. Might simply have been a temporary technical Problem.
It seems to me Merc still can't go 100% over the whole race (even leaving Fuel limit aside). It's just a question when and which of the two drivers it hits first. They have significant excess pace but can sustain it only for a limited number of laps.

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Maybe this was the punishment Merc served him, let Lewis pass without a fight.

Agreed before the race.

Did you see Toto's face after that it was not one of winning but one of power.

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WilliamsF1 wrote:Maybe this was the punishment Merc served him, let Lewis pass without a fight.

Agreed before the race.

Did you see Toto's face after that it was not one of winning but one of power.
Not one of triumph? A one-two in Ferrari's back yard look?
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