2014 Italian GP - Monza, September 5-7

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Thats one of tge silliest conspiracies ive heard. At least the hamilton fans conspiracies hold some semblance of realism. Today rosberg has done what he has been doing the whole season. Study hamiltons telemetry traces to fins out where hamilton late brakes. Replicate this in qualifying to get closer, but due to changing conditions during the race he fails to replicate the braking point and instead bothes it when he's under pressure to drive on the limit. He simply was over the limit based on what he knows is possible for the car but not possible in the situation with the tyres, fuel weight and track conditions. Simply put hes trying to copy natural talent, and it failed to work. No other explanation. He will continue to do this as the seasons battlea go on.
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nico is under severe pressure now .Living with the Booing and bad reception is destabilising no doubt here.He will need to keep out of further controversies now and try to keep in reach with Hamilton who is psychochologically in an easier position but needs to take more risks .

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUo1xE5d32o[/youtube]

You can hear the moment Alonso' car loses power, you can hear the aggressive down-shifts...EBD esque fart sounds.
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Hobbs04 wrote:Why did Lewis pull away after the "chicane gate" where prior to that Nico was keeping a gap...
The only time Nico was keeping a gap was at the end of the 1st stint, and that was because they had old tyres and Lewis couldn't get any closer slding around too much in the dirty air, he said as much himself. Lewis was clearly faster than Rosberg all weekend.

There's no conspiracy here folks, Rosberg just made a number of errors in the race under braking, he's been doing it all season. Remember Hamilton taking 0.5s out of Rosberg in S2 the lap before he took the lead? The gap just shrunk from 1.1 to 0.6. It was mentioned but they never looked into what happened, but it was almost certainly another mistake, Hamilton wasn't THAT much faster.

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i cannot believe the conspiracy theory put out by Nico fans
it is totally ludicrous to believe this :lol:
If u believe this then u should also believe Nico did it on purpose at Monaco and Spa

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siskue2005 wrote:i cannot believe the conspiracy theory put out by Nico fans
Conspiracy theories will be always present whenever we have fans and teams.
The race, however, turned out to be much more entertaining that I was expecting. In the meantime, you can cast your vote for the driver of the day at Monza - http://www.f1technical.net/poll/index.php?dispid=283

So far HAM leads to RIC.

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I would say RIC was the driver of the day. Knowing that this is absolutely the fastest circuit of the calendar, Ricciardo still sliced through the field like butter with the underpowered Renault PU in his Red Bull. Selling dummies lap in, lap out. Absolute class performance!

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Hail22 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUo1xE5d32o

You can hear the moment Alonso' car loses power, you can hear the aggressive down-shifts...EBD esque fart sounds.
Although not as glorious as the V8's or 10's, that doesn't sound not nearly as bad as some people make it out to be.
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siskue2005 wrote:i cannot believe the conspiracy theory put out by Nico fans
it is totally ludicrous to believe this :lol:
If u believe this then u should also believe Nico did it on purpose at Monaco and Spa
Maybe they are still carrying a chip on their shoulders from Nico's day's of getting thrashed by Webber at Williams?
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djos wrote:
siskue2005 wrote:i cannot believe the conspiracy theory put out by Nico fans
it is totally ludicrous to believe this :lol:
If u believe this then u should also believe Nico did it on purpose at Monaco and Spa
Maybe they are still carrying a chip on their shoulders from Nico's day's of getting thrashed by Webber at Williams?


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhVG6gpiuFI[/youtube]

Hmmm...this may stoke the fires once more? very subtle yet cheeky way of "taking" someone out ;)

This is possibly one reason why Rosberg felt pressured by Hamilton, as he cannot go wheel to wheel without taking someone out...albeit smoothly unlike Pastor Malfunctionado.

Note - Not a Hamilton fan so don't spear me! 8)
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langwadt wrote:
Andres125sx wrote:
langwadt wrote:They were still side by side after the corner so Perez didn't pass him, and if he had he would have gotten a penalty for gaining an advantage going off track
Are you serious?
All the times that drivers have given back a spot they gained by cutting a chicane was just about being nice?
So in your opinion Perez cutted the chicane voluntarily, Button pushing him off track has no influence here......

Do you realice you started asking me if Button deserved a penalty because he forced Perez off track, and now you´re saying Perez should have been penaliced because he cutted the chicane? :wtf:


Button forced Perez off track when the mexican was at his side passing him, but even so Perez completed the overtaking, so it was Button who did the ilegal maneouver, but since Perez was not harmed by this because he completed the overtaking, Button does not deserve a penalty. To me it´s perfectly clear, as for stewards. I don´t understand your confusion with the incident


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WaikeCU wrote:I would say RIC was the driver of the day. Knowing that this is absolutely the fastest circuit of the calendar, Ricciardo still sliced through the field like butter with the underpowered Renault PU in his Red Bull. Selling dummies lap in, lap out. Absolute class performance!
His tyres at the end were 7 laps newer than those he was overtaking who were all very close to, or even falling over the cliff.

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I'm pretty sure Williams won't mind too much about that. They got a great result in 3-4 and really didn't have enough pace over the course of the race to challenge Mercedes. And I'm pretty sure they are chuffed to bits with the PU they have provided them as well.

On another note, why is it always Mercedes having the issues from the power trains? You don't really see the customer teams having as many issues.
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Jonnycraig wrote:
His tyres at the end were 7 laps newer than those he was overtaking who were all very close to, or even falling over the cliff.
That's because he made his first set live so long he had options to run the race any way he wanted.
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