I was thinking that, to achieve a structure that could absorb a greater amount of energy due to a collision, the engine (not necessarily the V6) could be moved in front of the pilot. The results remind me late '50 cars.
Interesting idea. Just imagine from the point of the driver, having the car rotation point in front of him would take some getting used to. Also I can imagine the headaches that teams would have with C of G issues.CAEdevice wrote:I was thinking that, to achieve a structure that could absorb a greater amount of energy due to a collision, the engine (not necessarily the V6) could be moved in front of the pilot. The results remind me late '50 cars.
http://www.caedevice.net/F1-front-engine/10.jpg
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Thermal engine only would be placed in front of the cockpit (about 100kg), while the pilot (about 70kg) would be moved 600-650mm behind. Batteries, kers, fuel thank and gearbox would be behind the cockipt. Probably areodynamics should be deeply modified too (in the picture I used the same rear and front wing, and the same "concepts" of a 2014 car)trinidefender wrote:Interesting idea. Just imagine from the point of the driver, having the car rotation point in front of him would take some getting used to. Also I can imagine the headaches that teams would have with C of G issues.
Yes you are right, but if a collision would so violent to cause this, probably other objects (guardrail, other cars engine, ... ) could do the same.alexx_88 wrote:I'm no expert, but won't putting the engine in front would also greatly increase the chances of bits of it getting into the cockpit, basically increasing risk?
You don't want the fuel tank behind the driver. With a 100L tank behind the driver draining over the race the centre of gravity will change dramatically.CAEdevice wrote:Thermal engine only would be placed in front of the cockpit (about 100kg), while the pilot (about 70kg) would be moved 600-650mm behind. Batteries, kers, fuel thank and gearbox would be behind the cockipt. Probably areodynamics should be deeply modified too (in the picture I used the same rear and front wing, and the same "concepts" of a 2014 car)trinidefender wrote:Interesting idea. Just imagine from the point of the driver, having the car rotation point in front of him would take some getting used to. Also I can imagine the headaches that teams would have with C of G issues.
Yes you are right, but if a collision would so violent to cause this, probably other objects (guardrail, other cars engine, ... ) could do the same.alexx_88 wrote:I'm no expert, but won't putting the engine in front would also greatly increase the chances of bits of it getting into the cockpit, basically increasing risk?
and he'll need to sit on the drive shaft. I'm not sure a lump of metal is better than the current crash structure.Tim.Wright wrote:Looks like your driver's feet are in the engine bay by quite some margin
I have been thinking about this.Blanchimont wrote:Things to consider:
And finally: Would it have helped in a crash like the one Bianchi experienced?