Red Bull RB10 Renault

[wesley123]

Even if the color is that much different, the high upward slope on the tub, the lack of ducting under the tub, and the lack of a colored part on the inside pillar give it away that it is not the RBR.

[djos]

Even if the color is that much different, the high upward slope on the tub, the lack of ducting under the tub, and the lack of a colored part on the inside pillar give it away that it is not the RBR.

Im afraid you are wrong:

A/ Clearly shows number 3 on the nose, it's Dan Riccardo's car

B/ the S duct is made complete when the nose is attached, you can see the lower half ramp starting in between the two "D" shapes extrusions curving in and upward. The above the two reservoirs you can see the top half of the S duct bulging out.

C/ the RedBull Stripes are clearly visible on the side of the Nose, the STR cars have never had these.

D/ you can clearly see the Rauch sponsoship on the bargeboards, TR dont have them as a sponsor

E/ you can clearly see the "Total" logo on the nose, TR dont have them as a sponsor

F/ you can see the Pepe Jeans sponsorship on the Mechanic and the side pod cooler, again not a TR sponsor

[wesley123]

Again, i am talking about this image


That clearly are the turning vanes from the STR. Like said, the lack of the blue color on the inside of the pillar, the large upward angle from the tub to the nose. the lack of ducting under the tub.

[BanMeToo]

Wesley is right.

[djos]

Again, i am talking about this image
http://i.imgur.com/5OP3ctA.jpg

That clearly are the turning vanes from the STR. Like said, the lack of the blue color on the inside of the pillar, the large upward angle from the tub to the nose. the lack of ducting under the tub.

sorry thought you meant the other pic (I need more coffee!)

Hmm, you may well be correct, I dont recall that bulge along the bottom edge being on the RB10 either.

[gandharva]

So boring... quite nothing has happened at this car for a long time this season. I bet they are already working on the 2015 car for a long time.

[henra]

So boring... quite nothing has happened at this car for a long time this season. I bet they are already working on the 2015 car for a long time.

Yup. That struck me as well all season long. The aero development on this years cars seemed to have stopped right before it even started. Redbull was always among the masters of in season development This year: Nada.
It seems they gave up once they realised their engine is crap and the season will be a lost one by their Standards.
The other possibility would be that the Team felt aero development is not a lucrative field to invest in in order to bring the car ahoad but I seriously doubt that with Adrian Newey being the Tech Boss.

With so much changes in the aero reguliaton this year we can pretty safely rule out possibility 3 that the Team considered the aero already so much refined that there isn't much left to gain.

[Juzh]

So boring... quite nothing has happened at this car for a long time this season. I bet they are already working on the 2015 car for a long time.

Next year's car better be good then.

[anzx]

How good it's gonna be, it depends on Renault more or less.

[Blackout]

The RB10 is a very good car obviously and it's the car that integrates the Renault PU and cope with it's weak points the best IMO. Look how close are the interccolers to the turbo and the intake manifold and how 'good' the compressor-intercooler air pipe is isolated from the hot exhaust pipes, compared to the other Renault angined cars...
And that very conventional Renault PU has abviously a huge margin of progression. But have Renault anough time and room in the new regs?

[Morteza]

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[marcush.]

the lack of obvious development may as well be the indication of just how much Adrian Newey was driving the ball in the years gone.
With the itch gone people may stand back and refine and rethink more at home and not push through as quick as possible.
Hands down RB10 is a nice car but it is not the class of the field - TR ,not using the same design as the big brother was sometimes just as quick or quicker...

[Juzh]

the lack of obvious development may as well be the indication of just how much Adrian Newey was driving the ball in the years gone.
With the itch gone people may stand back and refine and rethink more at home and not push through as quick as possible.
Hands down RB10 is a nice car but it is not the class of the field - TR ,not using the same design as the big brother was sometimes just as quick or quicker...

Sorry, but that's just incorrect. RB10 was most definitely the best chassis on the grid in the first few races when we had a rain affected quali and then held it's own long into the 2nd half on the season despite apparent lack of developments.
TR was only once actually quicker than RB10, but then fell massively behind in the race, indicating a strong qualli setup. Not comparable cars at all.

It really seems full focus has gone to developing RB11 long ago.

[prince]

It really seems full focus has gone to developing RB11 long ago.

This is something I can't understand. If the same statement would have been made last year, it was perfectly understandable. When regulations are staying same, except for front wing, there is loads of learning that you can do by concentrating on current car. There wasn't any development seen on Red Bull in the whole of second half of this year. They didn't made progress in Singapore, Japan and Russia, which are all the tracks of their liking. There is not one 2015 part, that we have come across that Red Bull have tested on current car, whereas teams like Ferrari and Lotus have done it recently. Unless Renault is coming up with a totally different engine and it requires Red Bull to redesign their current car. Yeah, then it is meaningless to concentrate on current car. Track testing isn't available in abundance and it is such an important aspect of any development and when you do not see a lot of intent here, its hard to believe that next year they will come out with some kind of magic.

[Harsha]

Perhaps the New Front wing rules is what holding them with mostly needing a re think to evolve a new design ?