MOWOG wrote:Being stupid is not the same thing as being willfully malicious.
My 2 cents and worth precisely what you paid for 'em.
Portuguese are people from Portugal. Brazileros speak Portuguese. Ciro might be a Rolo or a Paiso, maybe a Caleno, but he is definately not from South Carolina or the District of Columbia.Pierce89 wrote:Portugese? I thought Ciro was from Columbia or somewhere in South America other tHan Brazil.strad wrote:I have spoken to two Portuguese co-works about how big an insult being called an SOB is. Both found it laughable that anyone would get their nose so out of joint over it. Either there was more to it or someone is being way over sensitive.
Obviously we won't be able to make this a perfect place for everyone. What some think is too much fanboyism, others might not be annoyed with. We attempt to stay on a fine line to keep everybody happy while encouraging technical input as much as possible.Cold Fussion wrote:So if X is going to be banned, does that mean the mods will finally clean up rampant famboyism and general rubbish that occurs in the general sections of the forums?
It may be sad indeed if you believe that this incident was the reason for his ban. However, the issue that occurred would on itself never trigger a ban. It was stated before though that xpensive was repeatedly temp-banned in the past, all after joint moderator consideration, and not before repeated warnings and pm requests.MOWOG wrote:Putting aside what may or may not have been said, I find it incredibly sad that, after the tragic events in France, so many people are willing to applaud the public assassination of a member because he said something that offended somebody.
That´s a subjective viewpoint. He´s been a member so long they all just popped up after the voting system came into place.marcush. wrote:and conveniently brought two of the very best picture threads -ever- to this site...
That would require a goo definition of famboyism! I've often found the people who complain about famboyism in one thread are the perpetrator of it in another.Cold Fussion wrote:So if X is going to be banned, does that mean the mods will finally clean up rampant famboyism and general rubbish that occurs in the general sections of the forums?
I´ll try not to be nitpicky ,sectorone -but wouldn´t it be rather obvious for a member who joined in 2013 is definitely not in a position to make judgements in a historical context?SectorOne wrote:That´s a subjective viewpoint. He´s been a member so long they all just popped up after the voting system came into place.marcush. wrote:and conveniently brought two of the very best picture threads -ever- to this site...
That would pretty much exclude X then, because he spent a lot more time posting about stuff like this, than he did technical subjects.marcush. wrote: Please Steven -be so kind and do yourself and your site justice and throw out everything fanboy (ism) and make this a pure
and true Racing technology and racers site again.
If we can call you whatever we like, then I personally would like to call you a good person. Caring about others is a seldom quality these days.marcush. wrote:I´ll try not to be nitpicky ,sectorone -but wouldn´t it be rather obvious for a member who joined in 2013 is definitely not in a position to make judgements in a historical context?SectorOne wrote:That´s a subjective viewpoint. He´s been a member so long they all just popped up after the voting system came into place.marcush. wrote:and conveniently brought two of the very best picture threads -ever- to this site...
I would never claim my viewpoint was not subjective -i would never have raised the issue if i was not personally touched by x ban .He´s been one of the main reasons why i enjoyed this site .Call me whatever you like -but I have a soft spot for guys with
edges you can actually see and feel-e.g. carry their heart on their tongue at times but that´s ok for me .
I understand not everyone can take a considerable hit -something you have to be prepared for when dealing with that guy .But then we are men not mice,are we?
Please Steven -be so kind and do yourself and your site justice and throw out everything fanboy (ism) and make this a pure
and true Racing technology and racers site again.
The true line which should never have been crossed is the consideration of driver preferences and styles - Everyone has the right to be in favour of this or the other driver and is allowed to state he is cheering for his man but sure the Hamiltonmania and Alonsos .5seconds in the bag does the site no good at all...
Don't even attempt to draw parallels between an actual assassination and a silly web forum ban (no offense meant to forum owner). Xpensive is alive and well, free to go to any other forum to act as he pleases, or even create his own community with his own rules of conduct.MOWOG wrote:Putting aside what may or may not have been said, I find it incredibly sad that, after the tragic events in France, so many people are willing to applaud the public assassination of a member because he said something that offended somebody.
I have been a member of many forums over the past 15 years and have witnessed at close hand aggressive actions by internet trolls who deliberately seek to destroy an online community. From my perspective, nothing like that has occurred in this instance. Being stupid is not the same thing as being willfully malicious.
My 2 cents and worth precisely what you paid for 'em.
Let´s move on ,guys.X has left this easier behind than me I´d think.Let´s see if this is for the better of this site which had to be the goal after all,right?turbof1 wrote: If we can call you whatever we like, then I personally would like to call you a good person. Caring about others is a seldom quality these days.
The decision didn't came easy either for us. He was given many more chances to repent then any other normal person would have gotten. That's something you don't see because everything is shielded from the public, in PM's and user notes. This is as it should be, nobody wants to have his or her dirty laundry open for everybody to see. Only the moderators and X have a full view on the truth. We've tried to give you information on this as honest as we possibly could. If X could do the same, he'd admit that he had this coming.
The line between being a fan and fanboyism is very difficult and very subjective. It's constantly balancing between being reasoning and acting. We try our best to have this as good as possible, but there is not a single solution that could make everybody happy. We will make an effort though to please as many as we can, and agreed that there should a bigger effort.
You should be banned for this post. What the hell.MOWOG wrote:Putting aside what may or may not have been said, I find it incredibly sad that, after the tragic events in France, so many people are willing to applaud the public assassination of a member because he said something that offended somebody.
... I think that might just be a hair on the dramatic side.MOWOG wrote:Putting aside what may or may not have been said, I find it incredibly sad that, after the tragic events in France, so many people are willing to applaud the public assassination of a member because he said something that offended somebody.
You only have to read through the F1 team threads to see how they descend into abuse, and how often it does. Most of the time it is by people who contribute nothing technically to the site. I struggle to see how these people are able to stay yet a contributing member is not.Steven wrote:Obviously we won't be able to make this a perfect place for everyone. What some think is too much fanboyism, others might not be annoyed with. We attempt to stay on a fine line to keep everybody happy while encouraging technical input as much as possible.Cold Fussion wrote:So if X is going to be banned, does that mean the mods will finally clean up rampant famboyism and general rubbish that occurs in the general sections of the forums?
Obviously, to define the line, it is important that you all give us feedback, so if you see anything that needs moderator attention, please do not hesitate to use the report button on each post. We handle each and every single report individually, and even if one doesn't trigger immediate action, it's good at all times to know what's the sentiment on contributions.
