Scuderia Ferrari SF15-T

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poolboy67 wrote:no claro decals on the upper front wishbones anymore. running with new wishbones?
They just moved those decals above sidepod intakes

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Can someone please lower seb's seat?! Please?

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Obviously it's testing and the times should be ignored, but you can't deny things are looking up for Ferrari.

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Diesel wrote:Obviously it's testing and the times should be ignored, but you can't deny things are looking up for Ferrari.
Ferrari was the "fastest" and most reliable car in 2011 testing. And 2010.

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Juzh wrote:
Diesel wrote:Obviously it's testing and the times should be ignored, but you can't deny things are looking up for Ferrari.
Ferrari was the "fastest" and most reliable car in 2011 testing. And 2010.
2010 was very very close... so VET 2nd in WDC should be sure. :mrgreen:
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Aaronque wrote:Can someone please lower seb's seat?! Please?
he is sitting on ALO's six tenth...
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Wasn't Raikkonen fastest in the first day of testing last year?

I seem to recall that was the end of the positives for Ferrari. :wink:

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matt_s wrote:Wasn't Raikkonen fastest in the first day of testing last year?

I seem to recall that was the end of the positives for Ferrari. :wink:
yeah, but now six seconds quicker and only 3 slower than Button in the Brawn
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FrukostScones wrote:
matt_s wrote:Wasn't Raikkonen fastest in the first day of testing last year?

I seem to recall that was the end of the positives for Ferrari. :wink:
yeah, but now six seconds quicker and only 3 slower than Button in the Brawn
IIRC the Brawn didn't appear until the final test at Barcelona.

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do you think I claim this without double checking it?

and I didn't say first Jerez test of 2009 :mrgreen: or did I ...
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Mark Hughes on SF15-T
Instead of the conventional ‘A arm’ or wishbone arrangement, it instead had what in effect was just a single arm but with a forked end into the chassis. To get the equivalent strength of a conventional wishbone, this had to be much heavier but in eliminating the second arm it removed a key aerodynamic blockage in the creation of the vortices ahead of the sidepod. The Mercedes W05 therefore got to have its aerodynamic cake and eat it, with good front and rear downforce.

This suspension innovation has been copied by Ferrari on the new SF15-T. Although the car retains – uniquely among the 2015 field – pull-rod front suspension, it has Mercedes-like single lower arms with forked ends. The pull-rod layout already gives a clearer airflow passage (because the lower arms are higher, further out of the way of the airflow coming off the front wing) but with the single lower arms, it’s now clearer still. Ferrari’s aerodynamicists should have plenty of scope to place the vortices in just the right place to accelerate the overall front airflow. This should be vital in clawing back front downforce almost certainly lost to the very different nose layout.

Last year Ferrari had quite a narrow gap between the nose and wing. This restricted flow to the rear but helped the front. Although the siting of the oil tank within the gearbox casing (on all other cars the oil tank is in the gap between the cockpit and engine) allowed Ferrari to bring the engine further forwards to create a bigger diffuser area at the back, the nose layout was probably unable to feed that with sufficient airflow to maximise its potential. On the new SF15-T, when viewed from head-on the long nose being used for initial testing disguises the gap between nose underside and wing, making it look smaller than before. But when looked at in profile it can be seen that the gap is actually bigger than previously – feeding more flow to the rear of the car. This flow will be increased further when Ferrari makes its planned switch to a shorter nose (just as soon as it can pass the crash test). This is exactly what Mercedes did last year, when it introduced the shorter nose at the third race.

Ferrari’s rear downforce should be enhanced further with a tighter coke bottle section (though still nowhere near as tight as Red Bull’s or McLaren’s), a new rear wing family that James Allison reckons has been designed not for more peak downforce but more robust downforce that will stay attached better as the car turns or in windy conditions.

In essence Ferrari has surrendered some easy front downforce for more rear and McLaren has done the opposite. In terms of engine Ferrari is very bullish about significant power increase and better energy recovery. There is informed talk of an extra 80bhp. Last year’s motor was reckoned to be around 50bhp down on the Mercedes (though this year’s Merc is reckoned to have an additional 60bhp). If those figures are accurate, the Ferrari will begin the year 30bhp down on the Merc rather than 50 – and not be as limited as before on energy recovery from the ERS-H. In its initial form the 2015 Ferrari motor still has a rear-mounted compressor (and no longer split with the turbine to fit in the ERS-H) but it’s possible that the revised rules allowing engine development tokens to be used through the season will see Ferrari introduce the Mercedes and Honda layout of a front-mounted compressor later in the year.
http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/22058 ... -2014-woes

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The 2015 Mercedes HP gain seems to be dropping. The latest figure from AMUS is 40HP, though Lauda says its less. Not sure I would believe him though. If Ferrari have truly found 80HP, the deficit to Merc could be as low as 20HP.

From AMUS today:
'Especially not when you know that Mercedes has increased by 40 hp alleged. What Mercedes-Foreign Minister Niki Lauda denied: "Who was already at such a high standard as we are, is more difficult of zuzulegen "These figures are unrealistic 15 to 20 hp would be a great achievement..." '

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aleks_ader wrote:So they test "last years" Canada shrink bodywork.
What makes you say that?

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New bodywork for day 2. tighter around the exhaust area than launch. See stefans' post on the previous page. Similar to Canada package last year.
A wise man once told me you cant polish a turd...

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Crabbia wrote:New bodywork for day 2. tighter around the exhaust area than launch. See stefans' post on the previous page. Similar to Canada package last year.
Hmmm, OK, I didn't pick up on that. Will have to have a closer look and go back to the Canada 14 pics.

Thanks! :)