Mercedes AMG F1 W06

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Looks like the wiring runs to the end-plates rather than the central section.

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I notice this year Mercedes have modified the body at the back along the mid tail fin (not sure of its `official name`). Last year it went down to a sh arp point but this year they look to have made it split out into 2 just infront of the monkey seat.
Why would they do this? Would it help the airflow to/over the monkey seat be of a more uniform nature, it looks to me like it would push the air more into the sides of the seat!

I know it`s a very minor detail but why would they not just continue the fin down.

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I`m not sure if its just the pictures (not this one) i`m looking at but the rear wing also looks slightly further forward!

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matt_s wrote:Gaffa tape is 500MSI, about 10x stronger than high modulus carbon. I thought everyone knew that... :lol:
It's well known in racing circles that Gaffa Tape only comes second in strength behind cable ties.

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Rosberg's steering wheel
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Does anyone have any insight into how hard the car is being pushed? It seams as if The team is just gathering aero data and putting as many miles as they possibly can on the PU.
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dans79 wrote:Does anyone have any insight into how hard the car is being pushed? It seams as if The team is just gathering aero data and putting as many miles as they possibly can on the PU.
It's testing, and more so, it's the first test. They're not pushing at all. I'd bet if they pushed it there'd be a 1:16 in the car.

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Via @AlbertFabrega
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Moose wrote:
dans79 wrote:Does anyone have any insight into how hard the car is being pushed? It seams as if The team is just gathering aero data and putting as many miles as they possibly can on the PU.
It's testing, and more so, it's the first test. They're not pushing at all. I'd bet if they pushed it there'd be a 1:16 in the car.
No way, that's a 2005 time around Jerez.

The difference between a Merc and a Sauber was 2/2.5 s last year (it might be smaller now) and Sauber is likely pushing to some degree.

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Sevach wrote:
Moose wrote:
dans79 wrote:Does anyone have any insight into how hard the car is being pushed? It seams as if The team is just gathering aero data and putting as many miles as they possibly can on the PU.
It's testing, and more so, it's the first test. They're not pushing at all. I'd bet if they pushed it there'd be a 1:16 in the car.
No way, that's a 2005 time around Jerez.

The difference between a Merc and a Sauber was 2/2.5 s last year (it might be smaller now) and Sauber is likely pushing to some degree.
What we know...

They have medium tires on it, the supersofts are ~2 seconds faster per lap. They're doing 1:22s in race simulations, that suggests a qualifying lap could be 3-4 seconds faster. They've had barely any time to set up the car, and both drivers have explicitly stated that they could be a lot faster if they did set up the car well, but that that's simply not the focus just now.

Put all of those together, and a lap 6 seconds faster than what they're currently doing seems entirely reasonable.

Re the comparison to 2005 - the race is not run in 15° air. Both the tires and the engine work better at lower temperatures. This is why you tend to see qualifying laps at Barcelona being slower than the ultimate pace shown in testing. Comparing a 2005 qually lap to a testing time is not really doable.

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My take on possible laptime. In 2013, the best test time was 1:17,8 and the overall record is from 2004 where the F2004 did a 1:15,6. I would add 3%(about the difference between 13 and 14 for Monaco, Singapore and Hungary) to the 2013 time to estimate what a 2015 car can do currently, that would be a 1:20,1.

On the other hand, Vettel already did a 1:20,9 and if we assume that Mercedes is still 1 to 1,5s faster that could result in a 1:19,5.

So my bet is 1:19,5 to 1:20.
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Blanchimont wrote:My take on possible laptime. In 2013, the best test time was 1:17,8 and the overall record is from 2004 where the F2004 did a 1:15,6. I would add 3%(about the difference between 13 and 14 for Monaco, Singapore and Hungary) to the 2013 time to estimate what a 2015 car can do currently, that would be a 1:20,1.

On the other hand, Vettel already did a 1:20,9 and if we assume that Mercedes is still 1 to 1,5s faster that could result in a 1:19,5.

So my bet is 1:19,5 to 1:20.
If they can do a 1:22 on heavy fuel, but only a 1:19.5 on better tires with light fuel, that would suggest their race pace is devastatingly fast this year. I find that much less likely than them being a long way from their ultimate pace just now.

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Do you know how many laps Rosberg did in the stint when clocking the 1:21,9?
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Blanchimont wrote:Do you know how many laps Rosberg did in the stint when clocking the 1:21,9?
Was this on the first day when he did 38 laps?
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gray41 wrote:
Blanchimont wrote:Do you know how many laps Rosberg did in the stint when clocking the 1:21,9?
Was this on the first day when he did 38 laps?
The 1:21.9 was today.
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Blanchimont wrote:My take on possible laptime. In 2013, the best test time was 1:17,8 and the overall record is from 2004 where the F2004 did a 1:15,6. I would add 3%(about the difference between 13 and 14 for Monaco, Singapore and Hungary) to the 2013 time to estimate what a 2015 car can do currently, that would be a 1:20,1.

On the other hand, Vettel already did a 1:20,9 and if we assume that Mercedes is still 1 to 1,5s faster that could result in a 1:19,5.

So my bet is 1:19,5 to 1:20.
What makes you assume that Merc is still 1 to 1.5s Faster?
Why would you add the difference between 2013 and 2014 times (from other race tracks) to the 2013 times to calculate 2015 times... What does 2013 EBD, lighter V8 cars have to do with calculating 2015 times.
Please explain your methodology??
P.S You also mix 2004 in there somewhere?
I just don't get it?
Every one is saying testing times means nothing, yet you aretrying to calculate how slow the competition is and how fast Merc is, based on 2004, 2013 and 2014 TEST TIMES?
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