Mercedes AMG F1 W06

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Chene_Mostert wrote:Thanks NewtonMeter, just adding a bit of drama with the bolded statements :wink:
Ah I see. Nice... :wink:
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Moose wrote:
lewishamilton90 wrote:aldo costa(skysport italia) : la w06 nn è un evoluzione della w05 come hanno detto in molti ma una macchina totalmente nuova...anche nel lay out ma preferisco nn entrare nei particolari..a jerez stiamo sempre girando con il serbatoio pieno..in assetto gara e quindi gli altri possono sapere in che posizione siamo..noi non possiamo sapere in che posizione è chi nn gira o gira con poca benzina...a barcellona 1 e soprattutto 2 ci concentreremo sulla prestazione pura...quando ci saranno tutti gli sviluppi per la prima gara
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The W06 is an evolution of the W05, but still large parts of the layout have changed. We've been running the car with a full tank at all times so that no one can infer how fast we can run. We won't run with with light fuel or try to set up the car for performance until Barcelona, possibly the second test.
He says that the w06 is a totally different car, NOT an evolution

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hmm... The plot thickens?
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Chene_Mostert wrote:hmm... The plot thickens?
well think about it.. The W05 was designed around the FRIC system

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2015 Winter testing | Session 1, Day 4 - Jerez de la Frontera, Spain (04.02.2015)

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Vary wrote:
Moose wrote:
lewishamilton90 wrote:aldo costa(skysport italia) : la w06 nn è un evoluzione della w05 come hanno detto in molti ma una macchina totalmente nuova...anche nel lay out ma preferisco nn entrare nei particolari..a jerez stiamo sempre girando con il serbatoio pieno..in assetto gara e quindi gli altri possono sapere in che posizione siamo..noi non possiamo sapere in che posizione è chi nn gira o gira con poca benzina...a barcellona 1 e soprattutto 2 ci concentreremo sulla prestazione pura...quando ci saranno tutti gli sviluppi per la prima gara
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The W06 is an evolution of the W05, but still large parts of the layout have changed. We've been running the car with a full tank at all times so that no one can infer how fast we can run. We won't run with with light fuel or try to set up the car for performance until Barcelona, possibly the second test.
He says that the w06 is a totally different car, NOT an evolution
Correct. Another online translation give this statement:

The W06 is not an evolution of the w05 as many people have said, but a totally new machine ... even in the basic layout, but I prefer not going into the details :? ... in Jerez we are always running with a full tank ... in race conditions and then others cannot know in which position we run ... No one knows our position as they do not know if we are running (or not running) with a little gasoline ... In Barcelona 1 and especially 2 we are going to focus on pure performance ... when there will be all the developments for the first race.

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Moose wrote:
lewishamilton90 wrote:aldo costa(skysport italia) : la w06 nn è un evoluzione della w05 come hanno detto in molti ma una macchina totalmente nuova...anche nel lay out ma preferisco nn entrare nei particolari..a jerez stiamo sempre girando con il serbatoio pieno..in assetto gara e quindi gli altri possono sapere in che posizione siamo..noi non possiamo sapere in che posizione è chi nn gira o gira con poca benzina...a barcellona 1 e soprattutto 2 ci concentreremo sulla prestazione pura...quando ci saranno tutti gli sviluppi per la prima gara
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The W06 is an evolution of the W05, but still large parts of the layout have changed. We've been running the car with a full tank at all times so that no one can infer how fast we can run. We won't run with with light fuel or try to set up the car for performance until Barcelona, possibly the second test.

Dude, worst translation ever. Don't try if you don't speak Italian, you completely inverted the meaning of two statements.

So,
"The W06 is not an evolution of the W05 like many people said, but a completely new car even in the layout, but I don't want to get into details. In Jerez we're always running full tank and with a racing setup, so everyone else could infer our pecking order... we cannot know where other teams stand if they don't run or run with low fuel. In Barcellona [test] 1 and especially [test] 2 we'll concentrate on pure performance, when all the developments for the [Australia] race will be ready.

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W06 Start Jerez

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patrik wrote:
Moose wrote:
lewishamilton90 wrote:aldo costa(skysport italia) : la w06 nn è un evoluzione della w05 come hanno detto in molti ma una macchina totalmente nuova...anche nel lay out ma preferisco nn entrare nei particolari..a jerez stiamo sempre girando con il serbatoio pieno..in assetto gara e quindi gli altri possono sapere in che posizione siamo..noi non possiamo sapere in che posizione è chi nn gira o gira con poca benzina...a barcellona 1 e soprattutto 2 ci concentreremo sulla prestazione pura...quando ci saranno tutti gli sviluppi per la prima gara
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The W06 is an evolution of the W05, but still large parts of the layout have changed. We've been running the car with a full tank at all times so that no one can infer how fast we can run. We won't run with with light fuel or try to set up the car for performance until Barcelona, possibly the second test.

Dude, worst translation ever. Don't try if you don't speak Italian, you completely inverted the meaning of two statements.

So,
"The W06 is not an evolution of the W05 like many people said, but a completely new car even in the layout, but I don't want to get into details. In Jerez we're always running full tank and with a racing setup, so everyone else could infer our pecking order... we cannot know where other teams stand if they don't run or run with low fuel. In Barcellona [test] 1 and especially [test] 2 we'll concentrate on pure performance, when all the developments for the [Australia] race will be ready.
This is pretty much a given. Even with past history during free practice and testing, Ferrari seems to run light on fuel, Red Bull and Mercedes heavy. We'll have a good picture after the last Barcelona test.

As for the car, there is no FRIC. The internals for the suspension components have been reworked as you can tell by the turning arm placement.
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dren wrote: We'll have a good picture after the last Barcelona test.
That's almost never the case and it's not until we hit the first real race track after the Oz GP that the relative performance of each team can be judged.

Even last year with their massive performance advantage Merc did their best to hide it even in FP3 of Oz GP IIRC.

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Shakeman wrote:
dren wrote: We'll have a good picture after the last Barcelona test.
That's almost never the case and it's not until we hit the first real race track after the Oz GP that the relative performance of each team can be judged.

Even last year with their massive performance advantage Merc did their best to hide it even in FP3 of Oz GP IIRC.
You're joking, right? There haven't been many, if any surprises in the last I don't know how many years. The only one I can think of was Red Bull last year after their horrible testing. But then again this is for another thread...
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This component with the turning vane atop is a new item compared to W05 and I'm not sure if this has more of a nozzle effect for airflow beyond this component or if it's more of a flow conditioner aiding laminar airflow attachement, or both? Can anyone explain?


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Ferraripilot wrote:This component with the turning vane atop is a new item compared to W05 and I'm not sure if this has more of a nozzle effect for airflow beyond this component or if it's more of a flow conditioner aiding laminar airflow attachement, or both? Can anyone explain?


http://i61.tinypic.com/30c2kw1.jpg
Yeah i noticed that on the first day. To me it looks like a horizontal flow conditioner with a vortex generator on top, which seems strange as i thought you would have one or the other.

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Ferraripilot wrote:This component with the turning vane atop is a new item compared to W05 and I'm not sure if this has more of a nozzle effect for airflow beyond this component or if it's more of a flow conditioner aiding laminar airflow attachement, or both? Can anyone explain?


http://i61.tinypic.com/30c2kw1.jpg
afaik they are similar in application to the Slats you find on the wings on airliners
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On airliners they increase lift at low speeds, here they are simply a tool to manage airflow over the sidepod.
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