Scuderia Ferrari SF15-T

[Crucial_Xtreme]

Big difference in the downward sweep of the engine cover behind roll hoop intake duct of the SF-15T compared to the F14T.


F14T



SF-15T

[timbo]

Looks like most people try to put air filter as close to the inlet as possible this year.

[BorisTheBlade]

Well, for a start: It wasn't me who made that statement. Although I agree with that line of thinking. And the proof for it might show by every other manufacturer choosing to use variable intakes.

[Facts Only]

It was a joke he was making. Senior formula one figures tend to cover up their teams deficiencies with deflective arguments.

fixed

My next point made perfectly Giantfan

I wasn't even particularly aiming the joke at Ferrari, I would have made it about any F1 team making that sort of claim.

I think the proof will come in Melbourne, if its really not worth having then Mercedes and Renault will bin the system or Ferrari will have the best PU. Or if Captain Subtext is correct then Mercedes and Renault will have better PU performance and Ferrari will have to try to make it work.

[motobaleno]

My next point made perfectly Giantfan

I wasn't even particularly aiming the joke at Ferrari, I would have made it about any F1 team making that sort of claim.

I think the proof will come in Melbourne, if its really not worth having then Mercedes and Renault will bin the system or Ferrari will have the best PU. Or if Captain Subtext is correct then Mercedes and Renault will have better PU performance and Ferrari will have to try to make it work.

would it work or not for sure it is not a thing that make a PU the best. it is not the final weapon for sure
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some more speculation can be done:

mercedes had already an almost perfect PU so let's say they consequently are forced to work on very small details giving small improvements (the big improvements they already have obtained all the feasible)

reanult last year had specific problems with detonation: variable inlets could just give benefit on this so they could find it rewarding for their specific problems

Ferrari (who was the first to introduce variable inlets in F1 so I guess they could manage the technology) maybe had different problems with their PU with respect to renault so maybe they want to test and find other solution more rewarding for their configuration

[donskar]

My next point made perfectly Giantfan

I wasn't even particularly aiming the joke at Ferrari, I would have made it about any F1 team making that sort of claim.

I think the proof will come in Melbourne, if its really not worth having then Mercedes and Renault will bin the system or Ferrari will have the best PU. Or if Captain Subtext is correct then Mercedes and Renault will have better PU performance and Ferrari will have to try to make it work.

would it work or not for sure it is not a thing that make a PU the best. it is not the final weapon for sure
.
some more speculation can be done:

mercedes had already an almost perfect PU so let's say they consequently are forced to work on very small details giving small improvements (the big improvements they already have obtained all the feasible)

reanult last year had specific problems with detonation: variable inlets could just give benefit on this so they could find it rewarding for their specific problems

Ferrari (who was the first to introduce variable inlets in F1 so I guess they could manage the technology) maybe had different problems with their PU with respect to renault so maybe they want to test and find other solution more rewarding for their configuration

There's the key point. We already know that Ferrari CAN implement variable intake. If it makes a significant difference (relative to added weight/complexity), they CAN do it.

[PhillipM]

Introducing them is not the same as having a workable solution on a completely different powerplant and chassis a long time further on...
Any *CAN* make a variable inlet, hell, I've got one on my road car made from some old scrapyard vacuum diagphrams - it's whether they can make the current system small and light enough to be worth having.

[f1316]

Yeah but I think the point is they have a good working understanding of them based on significant experience. Therefore their stance isn't bourne out of laziness or ignorance.

[f300v10]

While the sidepod shapes are different, the SF15-T and W06 are very similar once you reach the back end of the car. The size and shape/placement of the hot air exits are extremely close, as are the rear suspension geometry and brake ducts. The diffusuer shapes are very close inboard, with only the outer corners being significantly different. The McLaren in the middle has smaller sidepod exists but a much larger engine cover exit. The thickness of their engine cover would seem to be detrimental to the flow of the rear wing.

[Richard]

Ferrari ...maybe had different problems with their PU with respect to renault so maybe they want to test and find other solution more rewarding for their configuration

This makes sense for me. There's a finite number of tokens and time so they need to prioritise the changes that give the greatest payback. Why add another technology leading to more complexity and risk of introducing new problems (ie encumbrance in the Omnicourse quote) when there are more fundamental problems to be fixed? They need to get the foundations fixed before getting distracted by fenestration.

[.poz]

Ferrari ...maybe had different problems with their PU with respect to renault so maybe they want to test and find other solution more rewarding for their configuration

This makes sense for me. There's a finite number of tokens and time so they need to prioritise the changes that give the greatest payback. Why add another technology leading to more complexity and risk of introducing new problems (ie encumbrance in the Omnicourse quote) when there are more fundamental problems to be fixed? They need to get the foundations fixed before getting distracted by fenestration.

I agree. Also they haven't spent all the token on the engine so they maybe just plan to introduce v.i. later in the season.

[Harsha]

[Fede90]

It looks like very stable and more maneuverable than F14T

[Gilles 27]

IMHO the key is simplicity. The car must be easy to find the right setup, once on tracks they need only made fine adjustement. My hope is that both driver could drive easy to Q3 and fight once or twice for the pole.
And progress constantly thrue the saison.

[aleks_ader]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3zUFNfGnNU

I m pretty sure that this "box" is just gearbox or engine oilcooler feedet from intake above or below airbox. So i expect no drastic changes in layout of the PU here. Maybe exhaust redesign and some really fine refinements in software or some other minor adjustments. Because the overall PU concept was not bad at all and i my opinion it needs just some polishing.