Mclaren MP4-30 Honda

[f1rules]

more pictures here
http://www.motorsport-magazin.com/forme ... 463,0.html

[f1rules]

i cant spot anything new, maybe just veryfying flowpatterns

[Thunder]

Some more Pictures of the FW from AMuS:

[mclaren111]

To me it seems flatter & thinner in front of the wing.

[f1rules]

great picture here, showing how the sidepod tunnels formed by the hotair outlet is merged with gearbox creating a very open rear

[Thunder]

So apparently the problem with the MGU-K Seal was not a Design Issue but a Quality Issue. Hopefully they get all that ironed out before the 28th.

http://en.f1i.com/news/3868-honda-worki ... ality.html

[petete50]

Hi guys, just googling some stuff from McLaren-Honda I found this awesome website and I'd like to ask you quick question about some information that come out from Spain this last week about the British team.

So some spanish reporters are saying that McLaren-Honda is the only one in the paddock that have not try the engine in a dyno yet. That's why they are having all this problems, but for sure Honda will change his mind and go for it. I cannot find any notice on google and the only one who been saying this info is Movistar F1 channel in Spain.
Actually who said that was Joan Villadelprat, a tech with more than 30 years in F1 working on McLaren and Ferrari for example. So this guy does not say stupid stuff like other newspapers like Marca or AS

What do you think about it?

[adrianjordan]

Hi guys, just googling some stuff from McLaren-Honda I found this awesome website and I'd like to ask you quick question about some information that come out from Spain this last week about the British team.

So some spanish reporters are saying that McLaren-Honda is the only one in the paddock that have not try the engine in a dyno yet. That's why they are having all this problems, but for sure Honda will change his mind and go for it. I cannot find any notice on google and the only one who been saying this info is Movistar F1 channel in Spain.
Actually who said that was Joan Villadelprat, a tech with more than 30 years in F1 working on McLaren and Ferrari for example. So this guy does not say stupid stuff like other newspapers like Marca or AS

What do you think about it?

Don't know where you heard that from. 100% certainty that Honda ran the engine extensively on multiple dynos. The other manufacturers all had problems last year...

[CjC]

I know it's not topic relevant but does anyone else get the feeling honda are gonna be unreliable and under powered?
To me it's screaming the memories back from pre season 2004.

[hollus]

The only wat Viladelprat said that is through a translation or transcript error. I am guessing that he was inerviewed in English, the stuff was then published in Spanish and then back translated to english, or something of the sort.

[proteus]

Nose of the mp4-30 is much longer than any other and it blocks the air to flow under. For quite a few years now, the flow of the air under the nose to the back, was essential for a vacuum at the back, which provided higher speeds and other advantages. As i see the vanity panel on the top of the nose, i guess it will be changed to a S-duct, right where that pillar is. My question is: Is the S-duct as efficient as the nose, that allows the air to flow under the car? (Thank u for youre answers )

[CjC]

I don't think mclaren need to worry about an s-duct at the moment.

*edit* they need to get that friggin seal sort. Ridiculous!

[proteus]

I don't think mclaren need to worry about an s-duct at the moment.

I know, the thing that worrys me more in particular is, that in spain the temperature is arround 10 degrees celsius, which is nothing near the 30+ of the summer, when majority of the races will hapen. The biggest question is how well is the Honda PU handling the higher temperatures.

[turbof1]

So apperently the redesigned seal also failed:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/117762

(please no complaining about it in the car thread, only discussion about why and how it possibly failed)

[Waffle]

Nose of the mp4-30 is much longer than any other and it blocks the air to flow under. For quite a few years now, the flow of the air under the nose to the back, was essential for a vacuum at the back, which provided higher speeds and other advantages. As i see the vanity panel on the top of the nose, i guess it will be changed to a S-duct, right where that pillar is. My question is: Is the S-duct as efficient as the nose, that allows the air to flow under the car? (Thank u for youre answers )

http://en.f1i.com/wp-content/uploads/20 ... 4-30-5.jpg

http://www.racecar-engineering.com/wp-c ... macca5.jpg

I think this is almost certainly not the final nose. Having said that, I've heard consistently from designers that there's not much performance in the nose, so I guess that a lot of air flowing to the diffuser is not coming directly under the nose.

The S-Duct is there to condition the air flowing over the top of the nose, so it's not aiming to replicate a higher nose.