2015 Australian Grand Prix - Melbourne

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bit1817
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The times of Ferrari are pretty impressive compared to Bottas in the Williams. Even if Mercedes haven't shown their full potential, it seems that the racing speed of both, Ferrari and Williams is not that far away.

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FrukostScones
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bit1817 wrote:The times of Ferrari are pretty impressive compared to Bottas in the Williams. Even if Mercedes haven't shown their full potential, it seems that the racing speed of both, Ferrari and Williams is not that far away.
I think Ferrari will have the edge over Williams

(I know that Williams tends to run heavy on Fridays)
Finishing races is important, but racing is more important.

evered7
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FrukostScones wrote:I think Ferrari will have the edge over Williams

(I know that Williams tends to run heavy on Fridays)
Williams run heavy over their short runs, at least that is what they did in 2014. Whereas their long runs always revealed the true story.

If Ferrari are ahead without any tricks in the long run, then it is a real gain I suppose.

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plus 1
Finishing races is important, but racing is more important.

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This is interesting. Last year, Williams had a low drag package and were doing 317.5 KPH and let's assume Lotus this year is low on downforce and hence showing good top speed. The difference is much smaller than last year, where a Ferrari engined car was standing on 8th position in top speed, compared to this year, where it is standing second !!!

2015 Friday - Top Speed
1. Maldo - 322.3 - Merc
2. Nasr - 320.9 - Ferrari

2014 Saturday Qualifying - Top Speed
1. Bottas - 317.5 - Merc
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8. Kimi - 311.4 - Ferrari

Harsha
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GPR-A wrote:
This is interesting. Last year, Williams had a low drag package and were doing 317.5 KPH and let's assume Lotus this year is low on downforce and hence showing good top speed. The difference is much smaller than last year, where a Ferrari engined car was standing on 8th position in top speed, compared to this year, where it is standing second !!!

2015 Friday - Top Speed
1. Maldo - 322.3 - Merc
2. Nasr - 320.9 - Ferrari

2014 Saturday Qualifying - Top Speed
1. Bottas - 317.5 - Merc
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8. Kimi - 311.4 - Ferrari
I say leave the second and take the 3rd in speed trap as Ferrari will run more downforce than Sauber. Seriously Ferrari made a good job with developing the engine

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What's astonishing is from that list, the Merc's are 'quite slow' compared to others, but yet they still set the fastest times by a huge margin. Does this mean they have a lot higher cornering speeds in the slower sections instead?

Harsha
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WaikeCU wrote:What's astonishing is from that list, the Merc's are 'quite slow' compared to others, but yet they still set the fastest times by a huge margin. Does this mean they have a lot higher cornering speeds in the slower sections instead?
its simple Mercs are going the redbull way of 2009-13
more aero = more speed through corners and slower speed through straights

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Furtado das Neves
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Hello to all F1 Technical fans and crew.
Can anybody tell me where can I find the Official F1 files with the Lap Times info, Speed trap, Sector times.
It seems that these kind of information is unavaiable, at least in the sites that usuallt have it, don't appear anymore.
:evil:
http://www.fia.com/championship/fia-for ... -documents

Thank you for your help.
Best regards to all.
Carlos Furtado das Neves
email: carlos.neves@cm-loule.pt

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Harsha wrote:
GPR-A wrote:
This is interesting. Last year, Williams had a low drag package and were doing 317.5 KPH and let's assume Lotus this year is low on downforce and hence showing good top speed. The difference is much smaller than last year, where a Ferrari engined car was standing on 8th position in top speed, compared to this year, where it is standing second !!!

2015 Friday - Top Speed
1. Maldo - 322.3 - Merc
2. Nasr - 320.9 - Ferrari

2014 Saturday Qualifying - Top Speed
1. Bottas - 317.5 - Merc
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.
.
8. Kimi - 311.4 - Ferrari
I say leave the second and take the 3rd in speed trap as Ferrari will run more downforce than Sauber. Seriously Ferrari made a good job with developing the engine
Well, you will never know the downforce levels of any cars. So, my comparison here is taking the cars, which we can safely assume, have low downforce (hence low drag) levels and hence produce higher top speeds. Looking at the fast laps of the practices, it appears that Ferrari has better downforce levels (again assumption that their downforce is causing drag) than Sauber (quite obvious i guess) and hence I am only looking at Sauber for top speed.

Harsha
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Furtado das Neves wrote:Hello to all F1 Technical fans and crew.
Can anybody tell me where can I find the Official F1 files with the Lap Times info, Speed trap, Sector times.
It seems that these kind of information is unavaiable, at least in the sites that usuallt have it, don't appear anymore.
:evil:
http://www.fia.com/championship/fia-for ... -documents

Thank you for your help.
Best regards to all.
So FOM blocked here too #-o #-o #-o
Sigh i was looking for long run data :(

Raleigh
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Harsha wrote:
WaikeCU wrote:What's astonishing is from that list, the Merc's are 'quite slow' compared to others, but yet they still set the fastest times by a huge margin. Does this mean they have a lot higher cornering speeds in the slower sections instead?
its simple Mercs are going the redbull way of 2009-13
more aero = more speed through corners and slower speed through straights
Right, and more downforce = better tire life so its definitely the way to go if you have a big enough lap time advantage not to have to be worried about overtaking.

Harsha
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GPR-A wrote: Well, you will never know the downforce levels of any cars. So, my comparison here is taking the cars, which we can safely assume, have low downforce (hence low drag) levels and hence produce higher top speeds. Looking at the fast laps of the practices, it appears that Ferrari has better downforce levels (again assumption that their downforce is causing drag) than Sauber (quite obvious i guess) and hence I am only looking at Sauber for top speed.
Agreed but any way the final point is Ferrari made a big step forward compared to last year how much will be seen in the first few races

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Harsha wrote:
WaikeCU wrote:What's astonishing is from that list, the Merc's are 'quite slow' compared to others, but yet they still set the fastest times by a huge margin. Does this mean they have a lot higher cornering speeds in the slower sections instead?
its simple Mercs are going the redbull way of 2009-13
more aero = more speed through corners and slower speed through straights
This strategy has always worked well....when you are at the top on Saturday. Ferrari used to do the same, I remember Michael during 2001/2/3, he used to have so much downforce in the corners! but he was very slow in the straights.

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Furtado das Neves
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The LAP TIMES for FP1 and FP2 are now avaiable in the FIA site:

http://www.fia.com/championship/fia-for ... -documents

I have downloaded the pdf files, if you want them, please send me a e-mail to the adress below and I'll send it back to you.:-D
Carlos Furtado das Neves
email: carlos.neves@cm-loule.pt