Mclaren MP4-30 Honda

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Exactly, it isn't a linear scale like that, at least when you get into larger power deltas like 100HP. Like Jenson mentioned in a quote someone posted, that large of a difference has a snowball effect - you have to use more fuel, which causes you to have to save more fuel... which makes you go even slower. Not to mention it will affect your tire performance and probably a whole host of other things on the car.

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http://www.formule1.nl/nieuws/detail/mc ... -maleisie/
Button wrote:It will not be easy. The two long straights preceded by relatively slow corners, something that does not speak to our advantage given the current performance of our power unit. Moreover, it will not be easy for us in cooler conditions to get temperature in the tires, so that any progress will not be immediately visible. "

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First Pictures from China by AMuS:

Seems like the S-Duct will stay
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Tire Temperature Camera?
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Another photo from China:

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Thunders wrote:First Pictures from China by AMuS:

http://img3.auto-motor-und-sport.de/McL ... 855651.jpg
Could those tubes be integrated into the carbon fiber to save weight?

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captainmorgan wrote:
Thunders wrote:First Pictures from China by AMuS:

http://img3.auto-motor-und-sport.de/McL ... 855651.jpg
Could those tubes be integrated into the carbon fiber to save weight?
If you're referring to the horizontal tubes, those are the crash structure, and no, you can't save weight there - they're a mandated design.

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Thunders wrote:In the Team Preview it sounds like they fear they won't get the Tires to work. (even less than in the First 2 GP's)

http://www.mclaren.com/formula1/2015/ch ... x-preview/

I thought the limiting factor on the PU was temp. So I was under the impression with the lower temps in China, they'd be able to crank up the power on the PU. They seem to be down playing that and playing up the aero and tire disadvantages of the cold.

I hope they're just being coy.

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f1rules wrote:just a thought, regarding the comments from jenson about cooler conditions could hurt them this week, could it be related to, with their higher df, in hot conditions the tires dont overheat because of increased grip, whereas in the colder temps, no teams have problems with overheating tyres = tyre degradation

I thought the limiting factor on the PU was temp. So I was under the impression with the lower temps in China, they'd be able to crank up the power on the PU. They seem to be down playing that and playing up the aero and tire disadvantages of the cold.

I hope they're just being coy.

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Thunders wrote:In the Team Preview it sounds like they fear they won't get the Tires to work. (even less than in the First 2 GP's)

http://www.mclaren.com/formula1/2015/ch ... x-preview/
The tire temperature issues could improve if only they went faster.
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outer_bongolia wrote:
Thunders wrote:In the Team Preview it sounds like they fear they won't get the Tires to work. (even less than in the First 2 GP's)

http://www.mclaren.com/formula1/2015/ch ... x-preview/
The tire temperature issues could improve if only they went faster.
:twisted: :mrgreen:
So if they could crank up the pu due to cooler conditions they could go faster, use tyres better etc., no?

I guess the ambient temperature drop just isn't enough to be able to turn the pu up.

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diffuser wrote:
Thunders wrote:In the Team Preview it sounds like they fear they won't get the Tires to work. (even less than in the First 2 GP's)

http://www.mclaren.com/formula1/2015/ch ... x-preview/

I thought the limiting factor on the PU was temp. So I was under the impression with the lower temps in China, they'd be able to crank up the power on the PU. They seem to be down playing that and playing up the aero and tire disadvantages of the cold.

I hope they're just being coy.

Their lack of mileage was the limiting factor once in Melbourne because they had only a very basic understanding of the needed setup to the Australian range of temps, so they ran in safe mode.

The temperature problem is more specific to some components, and where they sit within the engine, not seemingly track temp related.

I guess they are now considering tyre temps. If they are slightly slower in the straitghs, they may cool down tyre too much, and those are not regular tyres, the're designed with very narrow margins for optimal use. Perhaps their sims are not looking good due tio this snowball effect.

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as far as i understood the problem here is that everyone reduces cooling in those cold temperatures. this leads to mclaren losing the advantages of their tight car.
correct me if i'm wrong

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First Button and Boulier downplay "another big step" in China,now Button on press confarence says they have all the data they need for another big step. :?:
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A few Pictures from Thursday:

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Thunders wrote:A few Pictures from Thursday:

http://img1.auto-motor-und-sport.de/McL ... 856066.jpg
:oops: =D>