2015 Canadian Grand Prix - 5-7 June

[Vasconia]

Its a pity that it wont rain, Montreal is even better with rain. But its obviously better for the ones who will attend to the GP. (I hate you all).

According to some Spanish websites Ferrari will bring an upgraded PW using perhaps 3 tokens. Honda will do the same but using only 2 of them.

[f1316]

http://m.autosport.com/news/report.php/ ... de-engines

Details of the above although unclear if Ferrari will use the upgraded engine in Canada.

I'd like to think they would - makes sense to me to be as competitive as soon as possible and try to use an older engine in Hungary/Singapore and/or take a penalty at the end. Better to be racing at the front in the meantime since no one really expects them to win either championship this year.

Wonder if they might even split the cars and give vettel the new engine to allow him to push Mercedes in the short term whilst maintaining optimum engine useage for raikkonen.

[Phil]

Am I right in the assumption that the token selection works like this, that the engine manufacturers work on the unused PUs? So essentially, if they [like Mercedes] has only used 1 out of the 4 available PUs so far, Mercedes is free to use its tokens on the new engines, but can not on the already used ones? So i.e. Renault who has already had quite a few engines failures, has a problem because it doesn't have any free engines available to spend its tokens on without incuring a (grid) penality? Or did I completely get this wrong?

[FrukostScones]

No rain, damn!

[Juzh]

Better to be racing at the front in the meantime since no one really expects them to win either championship this year.

And crucially have nothing to lose with williams (and red bull) not in a position to challenge them any time soon.

Wonder if they might even split the cars and give vettel the new engine to allow him to push Mercedes in the short term whilst maintaining optimum engine useage for raikkonen.

Are they allowed to do that?

[Juzh]

No rain, damn!

On the upside, at least we get some continuity to previous years in terms of laptimes.

[ollandos]

new engines (upgrades) new flexi wing rules ....looks like new season starting here.....lets hopes ....

[Vasconia]

No rain, damn!

On the upside, at least we get some continuity to previous years in terms of laptimes.

Not enough for me, I want rain baby.

I think that the splitted strategy for Ferrari would be a good option. But both drives should agree on this and I have muy doubts with Kimi.

[dren]

new engines (upgrades) new flexi wing rules ....looks like new season starting here.....lets hopes ....

I wouldn't bet on it.

[SiLo]

new engines (upgrades) new flexi wing rules ....looks like new season starting here.....lets hopes ....

I wouldn't bet on it.

I don't think much will change. And I don't think Ferrari will find the gap decreasing to Mercedes much (if at all) either. Buy hey, I'm a cynic.

[Jordan44]

Nothing will change, Merc will finally turn it up to 11 if Ferrari outpace them

[mikeerfol]

Nothing will change, Merc will finally turn it up to 11 if Ferrari outpace them

And then we'll have another 2014 Canada race

[godlameroso]

Nay, Ferrari is equally as good as Mercedes in trail braking into slow corners and top speed. Mercedes is much more stable than Ferrari mid speed but their aero is much more sensitive, if it's windy I can see the Mercedes struggling. In all honesty this race is going to be like Bahrain but with more tire degradation.

[f1316]

Wonder if they might even split the cars and give vettel the new engine to allow him to push Mercedes in the short term whilst maintaining optimum engine useage for raikkonen.

Are they allowed to do that?

I don't see why not.

Let's say they weren't intending to wait until Austria but Kimi has an engine blowout in fp1. Their new pu's are only upgraded versions so they have to use one - I don't think that means Seb would have to have one too.

Let's say Ferrari DO bring the upgrade and it IS worth 30 hp; let's say also, for whatever reason, Mercedes don't bring any improvements or, at least, don't find any major gains. If those things coincide, I think Ferrari will be competitive on pure pace.

[GPR-A duplicate2]

And then we'll have another 2014 Canada race

2014 Yeah, a potential disaster for F1, averted by Ricciardo. Imagine a car running half its power down and ending up winning. What a shame it would have been on other cars running full power and coming nowhere close. No, we don't need that scenario materializing.

Nay, Ferrari is equally as good as Mercedes in trail braking into slow corners and top speed.

I got what you are saying overall, losing in Barcelona with a "70% new car" by A BIG MARGIN and consistently down on qualifying by close to a second?

Mercedes is much more stable than Ferrari mid speed but their aero is much more sensitive, if it's windy I can see the Mercedes struggling.

Being quite uneducated on these matters, can you provide some visual evidence of this please? Unless, you have bought some fancy words from these forums.

In all honesty this race is going to be like Bahrain but with more tire degradation.

Can't believe people still want to keep their faith in that word.

Let's say Ferrari DO bring the upgrade and it IS worth 30 hp;

Like the "70% new car"?

let's say also, for whatever reason, Mercedes don't bring any improvements or, at least, don't find any major gains. If those things coincide, I think Ferrari will be competitive on pure pace.

"for whatever reason" - Mercedes, the whole company went for weeks of mourning in the aftermath of their strategy blunder. And hey, Ferrari has been top notch in producing such miracles of performance enhancements and no reason why you can't be right.