2015 Canadian Grand Prix - 5-7 June

[iotar__]

Grosjan.. What an idiot.. "He hit me! He hit me!"

No he didn't, you hit him and lost your points.. Nice way to end an otherwise great weekend, feel sorry for his team.

Nonsense. Grosjean got a penalty for Stevens not getting out of the way? Remember when Vettel drove into Karthikeyan in Malaysia and they gave the latter a penalty, 20 s or something like that? So that was causing a collision and Ricciardo Monaco wasn't, against a lapped car??

On top of that it's the same penalty that Button got for China , it does not get any more ridicilous than that. Vettel no investigation for ramming into Hulkenberg, Just rename it into F1 wrestling federation with predefined results. Bunch of no talents needed some points behind.

Mercedes crisis avoided, now 'attack' on the last lap

you must be watching a different race,

Stevens did nothing wrong: Gros cut back in too soon and clipped his front wing

Vettel did not touch Hulk.

"You must be watching", is this your only argument? Name a single penalty like that. I gave you an example from the real world and how it's handled: they gave 20 s for Karthikeyan for Vettel driving into him. That's the benchmark for lapped cars. Give me your example. I repeat: bunch of no talents needed points and they jumped at it. Explain how is Ricciardo-Monaco not causing collision, how is Raikkonen stopping Magnussen in Monaco '14 not causing and this is??

[enckboaz]

Just curious: why can't Rosberg be told how Hamilton is on fuel while some laps ago Lewis was told that Rosberg ist critical on breaks but good on fuel? Isn't that driver coaching in that sense as well?!

=D>
surely old bernie will explain us all

[AnthonyG]

I have respect for Rosberg driving that car and not knowing if the team is telling you the truth over the teamradio.

[iotar__]

Brake wear is now critical," Mercedes tell Rosberg, "so we'd like you to manage them for 10 laps before you attack Lewis."
Team orders at Mercedes, how blatant . The good old attack at the last lap approach, always best way to win.

hamilton told to lift and coast: the old let him catch you up approach? How blatant

Don't be silly the race is over crisis avoided. Now ask yourself why Hamilton is lifting and coasting now? That's because he was quicker earlier to defend and create the gap, when Rosberg was "saving his brakes". Think . Gap is safe, it does not matter. Your argument is working against you.

[Juzh]

Ez win for hamilton. Toying with rosberg all the way trough. Rai average as well. Shame Vettel couldn't start 3rd and maybe pressure mercedes at least somewhat.

[enckboaz]

=D>

I have respect for Rosberg driving that car and not knowing if the team is telling you the truth over the teamradio.

[Sniffit]

Grosjan.. What an idiot.. "He hit me! He hit me!"

No he didn't, you hit him and lost your points.. Nice way to end an otherwise great weekend, feel sorry for his team.

Nonsense. Grosjean got a penalty for Stevens not getting out of the way? Remember when Vettel drove into Karthikeyan in Malaysia and they gave the latter a penalty, 20 s or something like that? So that was causing a collision and Ricciardo Monaco wasn't, against a lapped car??

On top of that it's the same penalty that Button got for China , it does not get any more ridicilous than that. Vettel no investigation for ramming into Hulkenberg, Just rename it into F1 wrestling federation with predefined results. Bunch of no talents needed some points behind.

Mercedes crisis avoided, now 'attack' on the last lap

Where did you expect Stevens to go? Into the wall? Grosjean cut back to quickly and clipped Stevens wing, noone to blame but himself. And as stated Vettel didn't touch Hulkenberg, Hulkenberg went to tight, flew over the inside curb and lost the rear.

Lol@ Ericsson having to pull over after passing the line due to low fuel. Silly, time to bring back refueling.

[Jordan44]

Well today confirmed something we have suspected for a while. The team do put less fuel in Lewis's car. It's the only reasonable explanation for why Lewis was so fuel critical at points in the race despite showing far less fuel usage than Nico all the way through.

[Phil]

Doubtful... At the end both were pretty level at 98 used? If he had less fuel, he would have needed to save more and finish with less.

[Jordan44]

Doubtful... At the end both were pretty level at 98 used? If he had less fuel, he would have needed to save more and finish with less.

Lewis had used far less when I last saw the graphic, and Nico was never asked to do any fuel saving which makes no sense, as Lewis was always under Nico's consumption every time I saw it.

Then again, I'm not sure Mercedes would do that, them being for driver equality and all.

[Phil]

We dont get to hear all team radio.... And on the last overlay, they were pretty identical. Both had to save fuel, because Canada is heavy on fuel load, especially since there wasnt a safety car. If they do underfuel him (which i am pretty sure they dont), this is not the race to do it.

[Juzh]

Doubtful... At the end both were pretty level at 98 used? If he had less fuel, he would have needed to save more and finish with less.

Lewis had used far less when I last saw the graphic, and Nico was never asked to do any fuel saving which makes no sense, as Lewis was always under Nico's consumption every time I saw it.

Then again, I'm not sure Mercedes would do that, them being for driver equality and all.

Not every radio conversation is played on live tv.

[Jordan44]

Doubtful... At the end both were pretty level at 98 used? If he had less fuel, he would have needed to save more and finish with less.

Lewis had used far less when I last saw the graphic, and Nico was never asked to do any fuel saving which makes no sense, as Lewis was always under Nico's consumption every time I saw it.

Then again, I'm not sure Mercedes would do that, them being for driver equality and all.

Not every radio conversation is played on live tv.

Yes, but Bono confirmed Nico was saving brakes, not fuel, during the middle stint. I'll rephrase it, Nico was never pressured by the team to save fuel. If he was they definitely would have played it out on the world feed.

[f1316]

Ez win for hamilton. Toying with rosberg all the way trough. Rai average as well. Shame Vettel couldn't start 3rd and maybe pressure mercedes at least somewhat.

Couldn't agree more. Vettel was fast; sure the Mercedes' could have gone faster on ultimate pace but would have liked to have seen what would have happened with the brake saving if there had been another car close (ish) behind.

[AnthonyG]

Well today confirmed something we have suspected for a while. The team do put less fuel in Lewis's car. It's the only reasonable explanation for why Lewis was so fuel critical at points in the race despite showing far less fuel usage than Nico all the way through.

I don't know how far those displayed numbers are accurate, at one point Ham and Ros had the same average fuel concumption/lap, but the total fuel used was different.