2015 Canadian Grand Prix - 5-7 June

[djos]

2 races in a row now that Kvyat has been in a different series to Ricciardo.

The myth well and truly busted.

You do make a great broken record...

It's funny that the WDC points tell a very different story!

[Kiril Varbanov]

That was pretty boring race for Canada standards. One thing is for sure, though - the season is pretty much over. I hope for some good racing and entertainment til the end of the season.

[Vasconia]

2 races in a row now that Kvyat has been in a different series to Ricciardo.

The myth well and truly busted.

You do make a great broken record...

It's funny that the WDC points tell a very different story!

Well, Kvyat is starting to show his true pace, he has had a lot of technical problems during the season and he was under a great pressure. But in the last two races, which have been trouble free, he has had two very consistent performances.

[Vasconia]

"Now a new illusion has been created at Ferrari, simply because yet again there´s no real competition in the other side of the garage.

edit: Also people seem to forget Ricciardo has almost 50% more points then Kvyat.
Has beaten him more time´s in Qualifying and is on average 3 tenths quicker in Qualifying usually starting the races 3 grid slots higher then Kvyat.

So if that myth is busted i don´t think there´s even a word for how busted Vettel is.

Sorry, what? Kimi is doing a good season, yes his Saturdays are a little bit weaker, but his perfomance during the races have been very consistent, being very fast. But I would say that Canada has been his weakest race BY FAR.

So, Vettel is doing a fine job, being fast and consistent, every driver can have a bad season, as Vettel had in 2014. But in 2015 he is showing how good he is. Yesterday he had a great perfomance, and though he overacted when he tried to overtake Alonso, his race was great.

And as I have already said, Kvyat has had a lot problems in the first races, but he wasnt that far from Ricciardo. Now he is starting to deliver when he has had two trouble free weekends. I am not saying that he is going to smash Ricciardo but at least we will see a closer battle where the Russian can beat the Australian.

[Vasconia]

Grosjean is a serious safety hazard for the other drivers on the track, he's adapting to Pastor a bit too much. Complete nutcase this Romain.

Poor Pastor, let him being happy as he has achieved his first points. He is driving well but his bad luck has been terrible. So many reliability problems!!

Race was boring to be Canada. And really, Mercedes is killing the competition, when it seemed that Nico could have put Lewis unde pressure, we listened ONCE AGAIN "Nico, save fuel,tyrec,etc". THATS ANNOYING!!

Am I the only one wo thinks that Lewis had some coaching from the team????? because it was very clear. On the other hand Nico asked something and the answer of the team was "we cannot give this information to you". Something smells bad in Mercedes.

[George-Jung]

Lapping (I hope) example: changing direction in the braking zone - strictly forbidden as a way of overtaking and pushing off. Guess who gets a penalty if Glock keeps his normal line and is not getting the f... out the way (on the kerb, not normal at all) as Stevens should have I don't think Alonso would be apologising either.

Please pay attention, Alonso is driving a straight (diagonal) line in that gif..
Completely different to Mr. He Hit Me, who did move in the breaking zone..

[ChrisF1]

Grosjean did exactly the same thing at the Hungaroring in 13 or 14 didn't he? Was it on Button?

[wickedz50]

That was pretty boring race for Canada standards. One thing is for sure, though - the season is pretty much over. I hope for some good racing and entertainment til the end of the season.

Merc too strong and I agree that the season is pretty much over. Unless they drop the WDC trophy by buttery fingers there is no chance for Ferrari for 2015.
Also feel unless there is significant rule change later they will continue to dominate like Ferrari had done during the Micheal era of 4 back to back title.
Bad luck hit Ferrari first but this will reverse in coming races for Mercs so only chance Seb and Ferrari has is to keep picking up whatever big points they can consistently. You cannot have Seb starting 16-17-18-19-20 any further. Concentrate fully behind Seb and his car and see what can be done as a 100 point lead in the new point system can dissappear quite quickly. If this was Alonso instead of Seb, I will be very hopeful, but Seb is not Alonso. Seb has to drive out of his skin to get this miracle to happen. Ferrari is taken back by Kimi's driving and hopefully next year we can hope for a better young competetive driver alongside Ferrari. Ferrari management should take full responsibility for the situation they are at now. The ousted group underestimated the Merc development and this current group is underestimating the power the Merc have in their bag which is not really shown as yet. Long long way to go before we can see a new team truely emerge as the new champions.
Two drivers who stood out of the ordinary yesterday for me was Massa and Seb.

[WaikeCU]

Grosjean did exactly the same thing at the Hungaroring in 13 or 14 didn't he? Was it on Button?

True that! Guess the guy hasn't learned from his mistakes tbh. Still makes rookie errors out of nowhere. Spatial awareness can it be worked on? Or how do you train that?

[Phil]

Guys, lets stop with the Grosjean bashing here. The exact same thing happened to Lewis in Spa not that long ago and can happen to pretty much anyone. Yes, it shouldn't happen, and the immediate reaction right after the incident didn't make the best impression, but lets not forget that in these cars, visibility is very poor. He simply misjudged a car you hardly see during the race, isn't competitive and was a backmarker being rounded. The big question is also; If the blue flags are waved to a car being rounded, up to which point does he need to make room for the faster car to come though? Are there clear rules here, like i.e. get off the racing line, lift accoardingly etc? I'm not looking for blame here, but IMO it's a legit question. It's innherently difficult for both drivers; The quicker driver probably simply assumes that the backmarker will make room, get out of the way, brake if needs be, while the backmarker has all sorts of things to take care of; not only does he have to make the best of his own race, he's probably spending the majority of the race glancing in his side-mirrors to make room for anything that shows up behind him. Not easy. The problem in the Grosjean incident is that he effectively passed the car close before the braking zone and into the corner. To not compromise his angle, he wanted to get back onto the racing line, but misjudged that the Manor car was still there in the blind spot. From his point of view, it probably felt a bit like the Manor car rear-ended him under braking and corner entry, hence his reaction. Stevens was equally surprised of course, possibly because he didn't think Grosjean would cut back immediately. If he knew or had enough time to react, he could have used his brakes (though it's hard to know if that would have avoided the clash if both cars were both on the brakes for the corner already). Anyway, unfortunate incident, one that is of course more in Grosjeans blame. But the margins in the end were extremely small; it was only his rear-left that touched the front-wing of Stevens car. If he had been a few centimeters further apart, it would not have happened and both would have continued without incident.

[George-Jung]

Anyway, unfortunate incident, one that is of course more in Grosjeans blame. But the margins in the end were extremely small; it was only his rear-left that touched the front-wing of Stevens car. If he had been a few centimeters further apart, it would not have happened and both would have continued without incident.

It is only Grosjean's blame.. and for someone reacting so strong for being clipped at the Monaco race, you should not expect these kind of rookie mistakes. And last but not least, his response through the radio is just typical for this first lap nutcase, always pointing to others.

[Andres125sx]

Ricciardo has lost it and at this rate will not have a drive for 2016.

WDC:

7th DANIEL RICCIARDO 35
8th DANIIL KVYAT 19

[Andres125sx]

Ferrari should looking into hiring Perez or Hulkenberg. Even Grosjean would be an interesting pick.

Hell no!! With Grosjean being the worst of those three.
'Mr. He Hit Me, he hit me'

How about Mr drive without fourth gear for most of the race and overtake Kvyat in Barcelona's turn one that prompted this line by RB: "we still think he might have a gear problem"? Or Mr outqulify very quick Maldonado 5:2 (or whatever it is) without often running in FP1? Or going back to this race mr out-qualify almost (0,1.. + team errors) Ferrari and Williams? Missed it? Anyway in their typical nauseating fashion: team player Grosjean read written by his team fake apologies. That's their policy, apologise and apologise and look where it got them: nowhere. Sixth ot tenth like it matters, you might as well risk.

http://i.imgur.com/8E87LTP.gif
Lapping (I hope) example: changing direction in the braking zone - strictly forbidden as a way of overtaking and pushing off. Guess who gets a penalty if Glock keeps his normal line and is not getting the f... out the way (on the kerb, not normal at all) as Stevens should have I don't think Alonso would be apologising either.

Maybe that´s because Alonso didn´t change direction, AND he left some space for the other car, while Grosjean actually changed direction while braking, AND didn´t let any space for the other car, thus causing a colision

You don´t see the difference? Really?

[Andres125sx]

This was a boring race for Montreal standards

The most impressive action I´ve seen has been Alonso resisting Vettel´s attack for more than one lap, considering even STR was much faster than McHonda I didn´t expect any resistance with Ferrari, but looks like Ferrari drivers feel the necessity to prove something when they´re facing Alonso on track so Vettel tried the overtake too soon (hairpin) so Alonso was able to defend on the straight and last chicane. Nice one Fer

Max also did some good and aggresive moves, as usually, but not enough to catch up his team mate, as usual

Oh and I´m glad for those first points for Maldonado, he was being really unlucky. The bad part is now, apart from Manor drivers, Alonso is the only driver on the grid with no points. Self explanatory

Honda? Hello? Anybody there?

[Phil]

It is only Grosjean's blame..

Sure, but that is a rather simplistic view point. Were it between cars effectively "racing" for track position, the mistake wouldn't have happened because you know that the car is going to be there to defend his position and thus compromise the turn into the corner. In this case however, he was lapping a car under blue flags. The misjudgment happened that he mistakenly thought Stevens would be either earlier on the brakes and thus not there anymore and him being behind and "lapped" to make sure nothing happened. In the end, the margins were tight and the specific area very unfortunate. Had the colosion happened on the straight, it would have been idiotic, but it happened just ahead of a corner, before braking and before corner entry. He fully deserved the penality, but IMO the unfortunate circustance also played its role.

It seems many are now just bashing Grosjean for the fun of it because of the Verstappen-crash in Monaco and the resulting criticism there in means to "get back". Yes, it was unfortunate, it was also avoidable and shouldn't have happened, but a bit more perspective here would be nice.