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[zioture]

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[BanMeToo]

Hey zioture. Don't take this as an insult because I really appreciate these pics you posted, I always look forward to good race build-up pics but... your watermark is far too big. And you might consider making it semitransparent. Just a suggestion : )

[PlatinumZealot]

Water mark?
More like big fat sticker.

[zioture]

[zioture]

Hey zioture. Don't take this as an insult because I really appreciate these pics you posted, I always look forward to good race build-up pics but... your watermark is far too big. And you might consider making it semitransparent. Just a suggestion : )

OK ...

[zioture]

Others pics

[TechF1]

Something new in the T-Tray also... very similar on what Lotus Did...

[f300v10]

More shots of the tyre squirt aero update:





Via AMUS

[f1316]

So we now found ourselves in a position where *only* Ferrar still sports a long nose - every other team has put the work in to have a different nose (given that we think it's fairly easy to get a long nose to pass the crash tests).

Obviously, they think there's very little penalty of having this nose config, and this speaks of their general aero philosophy being a little different (as it was last year with their shorter nose). They've mentioned that they would like a shorter nose but the fact that lots of development parts are coming w/ no short nose indicates that they're not too bothered by it.

It also shows that there is no inherent problem with having this nose vs the other kinds - depending on your overall philosophy - because the car runs well. But interesting that they're now the only ones with this kind of nose.

[Sevach]

[fawe4]

So we now found ourselves in a position where *only* Ferrar still sports a long nose - every other team has put the work in to have a different nose (given that we think it's fairly easy to get a long nose to pass the crash tests).

Obviously, they think there's very little penalty of having this nose config, and this speaks of their general aero philosophy being a little different (as it was last year with their shorter nose). They've mentioned that they would like a shorter nose but the fact that lots of development parts are coming w/ no short nose indicates that they're not too bothered by it.

It also shows that there is no inherent problem with having this nose vs the other kinds - depending on your overall philosophy - because the car runs well. But interesting that they're now the only ones with this kind of nose.

The thing is that they can't make it shorter. Look at their upper wishbone, it's as forward as it can be. If they try to shape the nose around it, it would have a step, and that's illegal now. Only way would be by moving the wishbone, and that's changing the suspension setup that finally works, and even besides that, something that simply isn't done midseason.

[JaqDRipper]

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2015/06/19/f ... rformance/

[henra]

The thing is that they can't make it shorter. Look at their upper wishbone, it's as forward as it can be. If they try to shape the nose around it, it would have a step, and that's illegal now.

Is it written somewhere that the Nose cone must have a constant angle over all its length? Why can't they make a convex profile of the nose when looking from the side? I don't thinkt that's the real Problem. Probably more to do with rigidity of the tub against bending loads. With the shallow angle they could make the tub lighter since forces are more longitudinal than with a steeper nose.

[PlatinumZealot]

So we now found ourselves in a position where *only* Ferrar still sports a long nose - every other team has put the work in to have a different nose (given that we think it's fairly easy to get a long nose to pass the crash tests).

Obviously, they think there's very little penalty of having this nose config, and this speaks of their general aero philosophy being a little different (as it was last year with their shorter nose). They've mentioned that they would like a shorter nose but the fact that lots of development parts are coming w/ no short nose indicates that they're not too bothered by it.

It also shows that there is no inherent problem with having this nose vs the other kinds - depending on your overall philosophy - because the car runs well. But interesting that they're now the only ones with this kind of nose.

The thing is that they can't make it shorter. Look at their upper wishbone, it's as forward as it can be. If they try to shape the nose around it, it would have a step, and that's illegal now. Only way would be by moving the wishbone, and that's changing the suspension setup that finally works, and even besides that, something that simply isn't done midseason.

This discussion was had before.. Most posters actually said it is easier to put a short nose on the Ferrari than the Mclaren because the Mclaren suspenion mounting points touching the top surface of the nose, but look, Mclaren somehow still managed to make one. So it should be certainly possible for Ferrari.

[bhall II]

There's undoubtedly a benefit to a short-nose design that allows more air flow under the cockpit area. But, given rules that place heavy restrictions on the relevant bodywork, I'm not sure a short nose is vital.

The ultimate goal is to increase air flow to the bargeboard area in order to generate strong sealing vortices along the flanks of the floor.



Ferrari seems to address this with a nose that's pinched just underneath the camera pods, which creates a pressure gradient that forces air flow to spill over the sides and then move aft. The placement and orientation of the camera pods assists this.



Basically, it doesn't matter how the air flow gets here, just as long as it does. For instance, the Mercedes/Lotus solution harkens back to the needle-noses of the R25 and MP4-21. (EDIT: To be fair, the needle-nose also increased the efficiency of the front wing.)



And if you look at the underside of the current nosecone, you can see how it creates downforce in its own right, almost like a diffuser. (Ignore the arrow.)



That functionality would likely be compromised by the "finger" needed for a short-nose design.