2015 Austrian Grand Prix - 19-21 June

[SilverArrow10]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-TXDN-o5IQ

Remember few year ago when hamilton was bitching about vettel missing apexes and still getting pole positions? Just look at this lap lol. Or any other this year for that matter. Hamilton just being salty as....

Yeah a few years ago he was also quoting ali-g...... he may have changed his opinion. Also wet Kerbs.

[hattrick]

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Sky-F1 | Austrian GP | Post Quali Show

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[drunkf1fan]

It's a known fact merc (all merc PUs) have a qualy setting. Often times have we seen speed trap figures faster in Q when PUs are maxed out than in the race with slipstream. It's track dependant, but it's definitely there.

Yes! it is a known fact. That's why I know it. I'm not disputing that... I'm just saying they have 20BHP over Ferrari overall regardless of qualifying engine modes.

Are you sure it is only 20BHP and what happened to Ferrari's canada upgrade with those 20-30 BHP? Ferrari seems to trail the Mercs to same tune as they were before Canada/at Canada. Either Ferrari's PU upgrades have failed OR Merc keeps letting out more power from their PU. At Canada, people claimed that if Vettel was there in Q3, the gap could have been lesser. What now? On a faster circuit with much shorter lap time, Vettel is over three tenths behind to Mercs, who didn't even got their final fliers. Before the run of final laps, Vettel was down by more than six tenths on banker laps.

Once again, a stupid performance from Kimi. Simply wasting a seat where a younger driver could perform so much better. Vettel is so lucky that he keeps getting these pathetic partners who make him look much better than he is.

Merc had an upgraded engine in Canada also, just not based on tokens. In regards to other posts in this thread there are more than one type of mode on a car.

There are settings for amount of fuel, what mode to run the ICE in, what modes to run the mgu-k/mgu-h in, ers in general. As I understand it the Canada engine upgrade allowed them to, assume there are 10 different fuel/ICE modes 1 being fastest and 10 being the slowest. Due to the knocking issue they couldn't use mode 1 and were instead using mode 2 for qualifying and mode 3 for racing. The reliability upgrades fixed the knocking and allowed them to move to mode 1 and 2 respectively, obviously at times they would use a higher mode in race when required.

Qualifying modes would be different to just fuel usage and based more around the ERS systems. While in the race fuel efficiency and consistent ERS delivery(harvesting as much as you use) are the most important factors but in qualifying you can sacrifice harvesting power and fuel efficiency to deliver a faster single lap time.

I'm not at all convinced that Mercedes show a bigger gap in qualifying than the race at all. I think in the race Mercedes have been running slower because for one there is no need to run faster than the guy behind can go and for another they have been attempting to use the engines for way way more races than Ferrari.

[PlatinumZealot]

Mercedes use the same trick Ferrari uses. Open the waste-gate and give it the full beans from the MGU-H and KERS on the straights.

[Spoutnik]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-TXDN-o5IQ

Remember few year ago when hamilton was bitching about vettel missing apexes and still getting pole positions? Just look at this lap lol. Or any other this year for that matter. Hamilton just being salty as....

Where he miss the apex ? In turn 3 every driver take the corner like this and for the turn 4 I think it's deliberate because it's a corner with too much angle and u can past this corner differently.
And tbh you can't compare the current F1 with powerful V6T-H, less downforce, heavier car and new tyres, with the Red Bull-Vettel dominant year ..

[ferkan]

Mercedes use the same trick Ferrari uses. Open the waste-gate and give it the full beans from the MGU-H and KERS on the straights.

Wonder how come Ferraris quali runs are never that different then. Even Allison confirmed Merc has more power during qualification. Can it only be waste gate?

[ismail1991]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-TXDN-o5IQ

Remember few year ago when hamilton was bitching about vettel missing apexes and still getting pole positions? Just look at this lap lol. Or any other this year for that matter. Hamilton just being salty as....

A few years ago cars had more downforce, I am sure they were easier to catch apexes. Hamilton also tries different lines to carry more speed sometimes, It can also has an effect.

[SectorOne]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-TXDN-o5IQ

Remember few year ago when hamilton was bitching about vettel missing apexes and still getting pole positions? Just look at this lap lol. Or any other this year for that matter. Hamilton just being salty as....

Is this like the time you brought it up in Hungary about turn 7 or is this different?

[Juzh]

Good memory haha. It's basically the same stuff.
Honestly I don't really care. Pole is pole. For all I know he could be carrying tons extra speed anyway. That's the whole point really.
Just teasing hamilton fans a little bit. Don't kill me plz.

[SectorOne]

Yea i think most corners that he´s missing here is simply a Turn 7 case, or for these particular conditions.
But Hamilton says a lot of stupid ---. He´s the ultimate contradictorian and yes i totally made that word up.

[domh245]

What will the back of the grid look like in terms of penalties. Assuming that there aren't any other penalties imposed before the start, by my reckoning it will be:

15. KVY
16. MER
17. STE
18. RIC + 10 second penalty
19. ALO + 10 second stop go
20. BUT + 10 second stop go

Have I missed out anything

[Jordan44]

The team don't think it was Lewis's fault, but reviewing the video it does look suspiciously like the white line.

http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/12472 ... iver-error

[mrluke]

Lewis seems to do it a lot in the last couple of seasons but I cannot remember it happening in any of his previous seasons. Suspect its due to how aggressive he is on the brakes and the BBW still being new technology.

[komninosm]

Sector times.

http://en.mclarenf-1.com/index.php?page ... s=7474&p=3

Rosberg's "ideal" would've been enough, too bad for him.

Maybe Vettel has a bit more on the final sector, but no doubt which is the faster car around a Q lap.
Still a mountain to climb for Ferrari.

I wonder if HAM has a different setup than ROS. Like one has more downforce and the other more straightline speed? Is Sector 2 more "turny"?

[mikeerfol]

What will the back of the grid look like in terms of penalties. Assuming that there aren't any other penalties imposed before the start, by my reckoning it will be:

15. KVY
16. MER
17. STE
18. RIC + 10 second penalty
19. ALO + 10 second stop go
20. BUT + 10 second stop go

Have I missed out anything

Yes, Alonso has a drive-through instead of a stop and go penalty.