Rookie mistake managing to race for 25 laps with brake problems? No way.ThumbsUp wrote:Andres125sx wrote:I´ve just realiced, if it was not because of the car (mechanical problems) Carlos Sainz would have scored points in 7 of last 8 racesbut his car failed in 5 of them. Only in Monza he didn´t score, what is understandable, but even so he almost do it finishing 11th.
Ok maybe Spa is a bit optimistic, but he was 10th in the grid when his car lost power in formation lap and was forced to start from the pit-lane. All the rest have been retirements when he was in top 10. Impressive
OTOH, in same 8 last races Max didn´t score in Sochi, didn´t score in Monza, and DNF in Silverstone because of a driver mistake wich sent him to the gravel. Not saying that´s bad at all, it is a very good perfomance for a rookie of his age, but it should put some perspective to Carlos perfomance, as he´s a rookie too but is suffering a lot of mechanical problems wich does not allow him to score as consistently as he´s deserving.
Sochi has been the best example of the season, awesome perfomance fighting for 7th position when he was 20th in the grid due to the accident, only to retire 8 laps before the end with mechanical problems
Hello Andres125sx, Max did score in Sochi due to Alonso's penalty (Kept cutting the corners). He also had damage to the car that wasn't his fault at all. First turn with the Hulk had a flat tire and went really slowly back to the pits. So he had to start from the back again. Just to put it a little in perspective.
Also Sainz was told to cool the brakes as you mentioned in lap 20 or so, so he knew there was an issue. Offcourse it's good that he kept pushing, but after the first spin with the brake issue he knew he had to retire because of brak problems he had only 3 brakes left as it looked. Then he spins it again and that is a rookie mistake aswell. He did had a great race but ruined it himself by over pushing the brakes and himself.
I do think both of them are equaly good. On the otherhand I think Max is getting slightly better in the second half of the season.
Edit: It is also a nightmare to compare these 2 on a single race, because both had have there share of issues per race. And there aren't that much races they had without both having issues.
Edit2: There are if I'm correct only 3 races where they both had no issues: Malaysia, Spain, Canada (Please correct me if I'm wrong)
Sochi is a track wich is not hard on brakes at all, so if they had problems in lap 20 (only 37% of the race) it´s obvious there was some problem with the setup.
Even so he did 25 more laps with those problems. That´s not overpushing if you ask me, that´s taking care of the car as much as he could. But it was not possible so his race was finished when there was only 8 more laps to go.
That´s the reason he tried to finish anycase after the first spin I guess, after managing to do more than half the race with brakes problems and even so reach 7th place from last one, it must be so frustrating to assume you must retire...
