2015 United States Grand Prix - Austin, October 23 - 25

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alvinkhorfire wrote:
AnthonyG wrote:Everytime Hamilton makes a move on Rosberg, I see smiles on the faces of Lauda and Toto.
That is the thing. This shows that both Lauda and Toto are not impartial towards both drivers.
Just because someone likes one employee better than the other doesn't mean they can't be impartial. Being impartial is about how you conduct yourself, not your feelings!
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Jonnycraig wrote:Whatever helps you sleep at night my man. As said, nobody who could challenge Hamilton will ever drive the Merc as it with them winning title, and his long running record of meltdowns under any sort of serious pressure, it makes no sense to do so.
You got that inside knowledge i guess. Other people call it delusions but you call it inside knowledge.
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Paddy Lowe. Scary look :D

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I don't see how throwing the cap back makes Rosberg a loser. Hamilton was just being tasteless adding insult to injury. He has to go ahead and make something daft like that on the moment he wins his 3rd title.
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Shrieker wrote:I don't see how throwing the cap back makes Rosberg a loser. Hamilton was just being tasteless adding insult to injury. He has to go ahead and make something daft like that on the moment he wins his 3rd title.
Or it could be like, hey man here is your hat. Not everything drivers do is some pre-planed attempt to get at their opponents, or done with malicious intent.
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Not knowing how to interpret and treat such a circumstance shows lack of emotional intelligence on Hamilton's part. For Rosberg, the cap incident overwhelmed him in a moment when he was definitely not feeling very secure - he was beaten, yet again, by his teammate.

Nico is fighting a losing battle, it's very hard to envision him beating Lewis at any point in the future. Hamilton is supremely fast and, having only his teammate to worry about, allows him to be in the best state of mind. If the rules aren't changed soon, I can see Hamilton easily winning 2016 and maybe 2017 as well.

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dans79,

I don't think it was premeditated. But it shows Hamilton has no respect whatsoever towards Rosberg. I wrote this in another place, more than %60 of communication is nonverbal, and seemingly two similar actions can have two entire different meanings, as was the case here. Read between the lines my friend. He didn't take a step and reach out to Rosberg to hand him the cap, he threw it, to add insult to injury. I'll give him the slight benefit of doubt that it was out of neglect rather than spite, in the heat of the moment. But gotta remember true character shows in important moments like victory or defeat.

I always thought Alonso was a guttersnipe for all his antics, and unfortunately Hamilton isn't proving much different. He is fantastic on the track, but if he keeps acting like this, he'll never be half the man his idol Senna was, which for a fan is 10 times more disappointing than watching him fight for titles and lose. Greatness is not just number of wins and titles. That's exactly why many, many people didn't think Schumacher was better than Senna.
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I can't believe people are reading so much into a harmless cap toss! I guess you if dislike someone you will always find a reason to dislike them more.

Cap tossing like this happens at just about every race, it was Rosberg that for some reason took offence this one time. His entire post race attitude stank, boy needs to grow up.

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He doesn't throw it, he lobs it aimed to land in his lap which it does. Rosberg throws it back probably because he's pissed off for the first corner incident (Lewis did run him off the road) and him having the race then handing it back to LH and possibly as a gut instinct as he wasn't actually watching LH when the cap came over.

LH has been very immature during the post race stuff when in the same room as NR avoiding eye contact and deliberately and obviously avoiding him etc but in this instance I believe it was a "here's your cap " moment without malice aforethought. I don't think the throwing back was anything about anything either...

It's really nothing worth worrying about.

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ChrisM40 wrote:I can't believe people are reading so much into a harmless cap toss! I guess you if dislike someone you will always find a reason to dislike them more.

Cap tossing like this happens at just about every race, it was Rosberg that for some reason took offence this one time. His entire post race attitude stank, boy needs to grow up.
Life is based on details and some details show more about a person than many things. Hamilton is an awesome driver but I dont like him as a person, and my opinion is based on many,many things I have seen from 2007.

Anyway, congratulations to Lewis, he is a well deserved champion, his driving has been superb though the lack of real competitors during this season.

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What a race this is the reason I love F1!!!

The initial laps were spectacular, its incredible to see how fast the RB is with mixed conditions and it clearly shows how good their chasis is. Rb with Mercedes PU...I can understand why they said NO. :D

It was a pity to see how RB lost it with dry conditions, they deserved much more.

Hamilton did not have the day with intermediates, he was lucky enough with the the lack of rain and the last safety car because the race was lost for him. But he did a great job in the end and took advantage from Nico´s mistake, ahhh Nico!, it was a pity because he was deserving to win.

Great race by the Toro Rosso guys, Verstappen with an impressive fourth and Saiz going from the last position to the 6th(finally 7th).

Vettel was impressive too, great job by the German. It was nice too to see a competitive Honda. Battles everywhere! as it has been alredady mentioned if USA fans dont start to love F1 after this race nothing will do it!

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A lot of confirmation bias on display. It's okay to not like someone, but you don't need to armchair psychoanalyze someone to formulate a justification for not liking them.

To me, it's simple. These guys are competitors. They're unhappy when they lose, and elated when they win. Reading too much into the adrenaline-laced moments following a race is a bit reckless. PEACE.

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Vasconia wrote:
ChrisM40 wrote:I can't believe people are reading so much into a harmless cap toss! I guess you if dislike someone you will always find a reason to dislike them more.

Cap tossing like this happens at just about every race, it was Rosberg that for some reason took offence this one time. His entire post race attitude stank, boy needs to grow up.
Life is based on details and some details show more about a person than many things. Hamilton is an awesome driver but I dont like him as a person, and my opinion is based on many,many things I have seen from 2007.

Anyway, congratulations to Lewis, he is a well deserved champion, his driving has been superb though the lack of real competitors during this season.
Totally disagree. I don't see any maliciousness at all in him, the only thing he is guilty of here is not reading Rosbergs bad attitude, but he just won the world championship, so its understandable, and Rosberg has been in that mood for 18 months..

I also dont see much evidence of a Hamilton bad attitude throughout this career. What I do see is an often unstable emotional state, someone very easily affected by bad events. His on-off relationship with Scherzinger probably cost him one WDC.

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His unstable character has been the cause of some distateful details though his career.

Rosberg promised us to make a great comeback this season but the has been in an almost constant state of depression during the season. I think he has realised that 2014 was his opportunity to become a champion and he lost it.

On the other hand, has anyone explained to Lewis that he CANT ask for information during the race? because he was continually asking for coachinng when he should clearly know that he cant. Once its ok, the third time begins to be a quite annoying attitude.

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It must be Lewis fault too that Rosberg turned his back on the podium celebrations. Its prejudice to blame Lewis for Rosberg's throwing the hat at him.
Anyway, what other psychedelic stuff can we come up with? How about it was Lewis fault that the rain drenched Austin, Texas on race day? Or that the Martians are coming?
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