2016 Bahrain Grand Prix - Bahrain, April 01-03

[psychemedia]

How the teams made use of the qualifying session:

[evered7]

you must mean Mercedes does what they always do and run their qualifying mode in their final run of Q3 like they always do....

You must have missed last race...

Was Lewis running wide in the last corner part of the act as well? There is no doubt that Mercedes have that pace advantage in Q's. First row on the grid was up for grabs and there was no reason why Ferrari shouldn't have gone for a second outing.

Tomorrow's race will tell if they got the same amount in race as well.

[giantfan10]

you must mean Mercedes does what they always do and run their qualifying mode in their final run of Q3 like they always do....

You must have missed last race...

i didnt miss last race and just like i said Mercedes ran their qualy mode in Q3 and jumped up by 8 tenths i think it was and ferrari didnt run their second run...
what am i missing?

[StigOfTheDump]

Why did Hamilton lap 1 count?

For all the people that said Q1 and Q2 worked... Ha

At the time of the first elimination, Hamilton lap should have been discounted for track limits. He should have been eliminated.

[f1316]

Why did Hamilton lap 1 count?

For all the people that said Q1 and Q2 worked... Ha

At the time of the first elimination, Hamilton lap should have been discounted for track limits. He should have been eliminated.

What was his S3 on that lap? I'm pretty certain it was actually purple at the time (which strengthens your point).

Anyway, didn't happen so c'est la vie. Think we'll have another good race tomorrow though.

[Phil]

In the past, only laps have been disqualified if it is deemed to be advantageous to do so. Hamilton clearly lost time on his excursion, not gained. Which corners are critical to maintain track limits are usually discussed in the briefing prior to the weekend (AFAIK).

Hey I don't like it either (the inconsistency), but these inconsistencies have always existed, regardless of old or new style qualifying.

PS: I didn't dislike the new qualifying half as much as I expected today.

[Sevach]

In the past, only laps have been disqualified if it is deemed to be advantageous to do so. Hamilton clearly lost time on his excursion, not gained. Which corners are critical to maintain track limits are usually discussed in the briefing prior to the weekend (AFAIK).

Hey I don't like it either (the inconsistency), but these inconsistencies have always existed, regardless of old or new style qualifying.

PS: I didn't dislike the new qualifying half as much as I expected today.

The same Hamilton had a lap excluded in Austria 2014 after he went off track and lost time.

[NathanOlder]

Why did Hamilton lap 1 count?

For all the people that said Q1 and Q2 worked... Ha

At the time of the first elimination, Hamilton lap should have been discounted for track limits. He should have been eliminated.

I heard them mention a few times (commentators and pundits) thats its slower out there so the FIA are relaxed on that corner exit.

[Phil]

In the past, only laps have been disqualified if it is deemed to be advantageous to do so. Hamilton clearly lost time on his excursion, not gained. Which corners are critical to maintain track limits are usually discussed in the briefing prior to the weekend (AFAIK).

Hey I don't like it either (the inconsistency), but these inconsistencies have always existed, regardless of old or new style qualifying.

PS: I didn't dislike the new qualifying half as much as I expected today.

The same Hamilton had a lap excluded in Austria 2014 after he went off track and lost time.

Yes, and at Austria, it was already clear to everyone way before qualifying that that particular corner would lead to a disqualifying of that lap if a car left it with all 4 tires. It was quite a topic if you recall. Not the same here or other corners on other tracks where leaving it loses you so much time, there is no point to penalize further.

I'm not the rule maker, but this is how i understand is how it is handled and has been for a very long time.

[GPR-A duplicate2]

Phew... I don't understand this.
I did some number crunching and got something here. This is the difference of time from FP1 to Q3. You get more time from Medium to SS and least, from SS to SS.
Driver---Time------------(FP1 - Q3)
-------------------------------------------------
Kimi---4.217 Seconds--(Soft - SuperSoft)
Vettel-5.601 Seconds--(Medium - SuperSoft)
Nico---2.724 Seconds--(Soft - Supersoft)
Lewis--3.306 Seconds--(Soft - Supersoft)
Ric-----3.607 Seconds--(SuperSoft - Supersoft)
Bottas-4.021Seconds--(Soft - Supersoft)
Massa-3.851 Seconds--(Soft-Supersoft)
Taking into account, the average of Kimi, Vettel, Ric and Bottas, it is safe to say, you can improve around 3-3.5 Seconds from SS to SS, 4-4.5 Seconds from Soft to SS and 5.5 Seconds from Medium to SS.

Mercedes, improved the least from FP1 to Q3, especially Nico. (Lewis was half a second slower than Nico in FP1, hence the total difference). Instead of improving, on an average, 4- 4.5 seconds, they improved closed to 3 seconds.

Nico is hillarious here. He goes out on a green track, in the first practice, bolts a 1:32.294 on softs and then in FP2, goes out on a more improved track and much friendlier conditions and does a 1:32.173 (first run on Softs in FP2). Now, where everyone improves from Friday to Saturday, he goes down to 1:33.150 on softs (first run in FP3).

[dans79]

what is this stupidity.......

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2016/04/02/h ... reversing/

Hamilton summoned to stewards over pit lane reversing

Honestly I'm sick and tired of this FIA/Bernie garbage.

[giantfan10]

what is this stupidity.......

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2016/04/02/h ... reversing/

Hamilton summoned to stewards over pit lane reversing

Honestly I'm sick and tired of this FIA/Bernie garbage.

Article 28.3 of the regulations states “at no time may a car be reversed in the pit lane under its own power”.
so why is it garbage?
its always been a rule as far as i recall. both you and i know nothing will happen to hamilton, now if it was maldonado ... lol
so you think if you miss your pit box you should be able to back up? the other cars coming in to pit should do what wait for you? its a pretty sensible rule IMHO better to ban ALL backing up in the pit lane instead of allowing it on special occasions.

[dans79]

It's garbage, because as usual the FIA takes a freaking eternity to do anything. If I didn't know better, I would say they do it on purpose, but they are to inept for that to be true.

[giantfan10]

It's garbage, because as usual the FIA takes a freaking eternity to do anything. If I didn't know better, I would say they do it on purpose, but they are to inept for that to be true.

i get what youre saying i assumed you were calling the rule itself garbage... absolutely nothing will happen to hamilton.. nothing that affects him starting on pole anyway so i think its much ado about nothing.

[Tauri_J]

this farce has to end now, why fix something that isnt broken.