2016 F1 Spanish Grand Prix

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NL_Fer
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Unbelievable.... just WOW....

GrayGreat
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GPR-A wrote:One of the cleanest shot. Look at Lewis' steering and he is ready to go left, but Nico kept closing the door, despite having Lewis almost next to him. Nico had poor pace out of that turn and Lewis came blazing in. Clearly, Nico's fault.

http://s32.postimg.org/528hugzn8/spain_2.jpg
Just keep looking at the shot, The gap is already closed. If both kept driving on the same line, they would have touched. Lewis should have braked.

ChrisM40
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I cant believe anyone is criticising RIC for trying to overtake! It wasn't dangerous, it wasnt against the rules, it was exactly what I wish MORE drivers would do. Seriously, people moan about boring races then criticise a driver for attempting an entertaining overtake. Maybe they should just stop watching..

Sonador
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HOLY ......

What a race, Holland wil go wild :mrgreen:

As far as Mercedes, i agree with Lauda.
It was too agressive way to soon, just like Spa 2014 was.

I like Hamilton, but he just like Rosberg is just a human.
Mistake or misjudgment happens, it was wating to happen.

I am curious how it wil pan out, the rest of this season.
Absolutely enjoyed this race, it was exciting, lots of action.
Great!!!

F1PuertoRico
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https://youtu.be/GJKgIVqqRpg. here's Lewis onboard
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henra
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GrayGreat wrote: Your team RedBull**** gave their lead driver the worse strategy, of course they are better than Mercedes AMG :lol:
You have to be fair though, in so far as Ferrari similarly sacrificed Vettel. And they surely didn't want to favor Kimi.
It was simply a question of the position of the driver pairings on track.
Simply a bit of bad luck for Ricciardo. That said Max could easily follow Daniel the whole race. So race pace wise Max was at least equally fast.

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DiogoBrand
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GPR-A wrote:One of the cleanest shot. Look at Lewis' steering and he is ready to go left, but Nico kept closing the door, despite having Lewis almost next to him. Nico had poor pace out of that turn and Lewis came blazing in. Clearly, Nico's fault.

http://s32.postimg.org/528hugzn8/spain_2.jpg
To me they both compromised with going to the right at the same time, but since Hamilton was way faster he ended up squeezed onto the grass. To me no one is to blame, it was mostly a misfortune.

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Chene_Mostert
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Why did Lewis attempt an off track overtake? Are the track limits not defined by the white line? Where was he attempting to go?
"Science at its best is an open-minded method of inquiry, not a belief system." - Rupert Sheldrake

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Morteza wrote:
nokivasara wrote:Now that we had both mercs out the race was still pretty dull because of a track that's almost impossible to overtake on...
I totally agree. The race was boring as hell. The only exciting part is Max winning it!
A. Drivers B. I'm surprised they didn't know/estimate medium pace difference on a long run - prime vs option strategy. [Not Vettel bashing] - even if he had a slower pace than possible (same for D.R. earlier) and blocked Ricciardo the pace difference wasn't that big to guarantee overtakes later(?).

Ham - Rosb. Claiming that it was anyone's but Hamilton's fault is beyond fanaticism or ignorance, nothing to discuss here. He attempted stupid move with no chance of success, went off, lost a car and caused the collision, Rosberg was barely a part of it. You might as well blame Vettel for Russia start, he braked and was on track in the same place. It was worse than Kvyat's so at least equivalent of 10 s stop and go 8) .

ripper
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basti313 wrote:
ripper wrote:I don't understand VET strategy, in my opinion they changed too early the Softs. Sigh...
He would have finished ahead of Ric, even without the tire failure. And with the other two guys not making their tires work to the end it would have been a win. With only staying behind the RedBulls until the end it would have been P3 or P4 for sure....
Maybe you are right, probabily they considered that they couldn't pass another car. Anyway for today I see more the empty part glass than the full one... They wasted an "easy" 1-2 on saturday.

Max anyway did an excellent job, even if RB gave to him the best strategy. I don't know how to explain in proper english, but I think that RB preference will soon switch for Max and for Ricciardo will be better to look for another seat.

LionKing
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ChrisM40 wrote:I cant believe anyone is criticising RIC for trying to overtake! It wasn't dangerous, it wasnt against the rules, it was exactly what I wish MORE drivers would do. Seriously, people moan about boring races then criticise a driver for attempting an entertaining overtake. Maybe they should just stop watching..
Nobody saying about it is wrong to try to overtake. It was a BAD overtaking move. We are lucky that they did not both go out in a T-bone.

ripper
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On Italian SKY they said that looking on ROS camera car during the collision he was looking at the steering wheel and he was changing some setup and probabily didn't see HAM on his right

henra
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Sevach wrote: Stopping Vettel just 1 lap after Kimi was one of the dumbest things i've ever seen.
And in fact not giving Kimi a bigger tire offset over Verstappen was pretty dumb already.
Agreed to both!

Ferrari again severely lacking in the strategy department. Vettels tyres were still doing very fine both times when they pitted him. They massively wasted overall lap time for temporary track position. Especially the middle stint with the Softs was way too short.
The same with Kimi who otherwise did a very good job today, Still King of tyre preservation.

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Just to think, a year and a half ago a lot of people wrote him off as being too young to drive an F1 car. Now he's a race winner and at an age slightly above mine. What struck me most was that since the Red Bull promotion he changed his style dramatically, he was well composed, didn't lite the rears up when he was in the lead and used the last sector brilliantly. I don't think there's anything wrong with me saying that give it the rest of the season and he will be hands down the best pure driving talent in F1 today period.

Regarding Lewis v Nico, it was a desperate move on Hamilton's part. Nico did nothing wrong with defending, he moved once to cover his line which is allowed. What Lewis should have done was backed off and set a move up in the next corner. Instead he kept it planted and wrecked both of them and cost Mercedes 43 points.

Still, thanks to them for the Verstappen win tho! I may have a new sporting idol now!
Friendship with Honda ended, Renault is my new (and more reliable) friend.

ChrisM40
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LionKing wrote:
ChrisM40 wrote:I cant believe anyone is criticising RIC for trying to overtake! It wasn't dangerous, it wasnt against the rules, it was exactly what I wish MORE drivers would do. Seriously, people moan about boring races then criticise a driver for attempting an entertaining overtake. Maybe they should just stop watching..
Nobody saying about it is wrong to try to overtake. It was a BAD overtaking move. We are lucky that they did not both go out in a T-bone.
Not really, its a move we have seen dozens of times. It shouldn't be an issue with the best drivers in the world., hell even drivers in much lesser formulas manage it OK. Its just Vettel whinging, again, when he does it all the time himself.