2016 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, 07-09 October

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Great qualifying session, so close between teammates. Nico nailed the middle sector which made the difference for pole today.

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Rosberg's quicker again = driver's circuit, that's Suzuka x3, must be luck. Let's hope they both have a great start, as Hamilton put it we wouldn't want bad starts deciding the championship ;-). Why not BTW?

Grosjean - driver's circuit, 8th and in front of one quicker Force India, same time as the other, that's why it should be 1. Gros, 2. Bott, 3. Per for best cars choices

Vettel - slower than 37 year old Raikkonen, which means Ferrari were quite close to Merc. 3 places = another wasted GP.

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How about those Haas cars. Seemed to have found some speed. Now can they keep it up in the race?

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sprint car76 wrote:How about those Haas cars. Seemed to have found some speed. Now can they keep it up in the race?
I think it is down to breaking. Not breaks breaking, but breaking into slow corners. This is also why Ros has an edge on Ham on this track.
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Haas got their tyres working despite the cold weather unlike some other midfield teams.
I enjoy seeing two Ferraris closer than last season in terms of both points and pace.
Mclaren slower than I expected which is a shame - MP4 31 was all over the place during qualifying.
Hoping to see Mercs fighting cleanly without any mechanical failures and radio whinings and see who comes on top.

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iotar__ wrote:Rosberg's quicker again = driver's circuit, that's Suzuka x3, must be luck. Let's hope they both have a great start, as Hamilton put it we wouldn't want bad starts deciding the championship ;-). Why not BTW?

Grosjean - driver's circuit, 8th and in front of one quicker Force India, same time as the other, that's why it should be 1. Gros, 2. Bott, 3. Per for best cars choices

Vettel - slower than 37 year old Raikkonen, which means Ferrari were quite close to Merc. 3 places = another wasted GP.
Vettel was being faster but he made a mistake in the last lap. Anyway Kimi´s performance is(and has been) great. This is the real Kimi.

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Sevach wrote:That was close, Lewis woke up in Q3 but Rosberg still made it.

Ferrari seems very good through the esses didn't expect that.
They looked very good but as far as I know RB has a better race pace.

On the other and, race pace between Nico and Lewis is pretty similar but Nico has a bigger degradation which makes Lewis faster in the last laps of each stint. The race could be decided in those laps.

Have we real chances for a wet race? becase it was going to rain but... :roll:

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Vasconia wrote:
Sevach wrote:That was close, Lewis woke up in Q3 but Rosberg still made it.

Ferrari seems very good through the esses didn't expect that.
They looked very good but as far as I know RB has a better race pace.

On the other and, race pace between Nico and Lewis is pretty similar but Nico has a bigger degradation which makes Lewis faster in the last laps of each stint. The race could be decided in those laps.

Have we real chances for a wet race? becase it was going to rain but... :roll:
This is basically the question I've been looking for answers on: how did Ferrari's race pace look in Q2?

Saw a lot about RB's being good but Ferrari's not mentioned. I guess that means it wasn't great - and of course Kimi was saying balance not good on Friday, so maybe it's changed - but can't find it anywhere for the life of me.

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Vasconia wrote:
iotar__ wrote:Rosberg's quicker again = driver's circuit, that's Suzuka x3, must be luck. Let's hope they both have a great start, as Hamilton put it we wouldn't want bad starts deciding the championship ;-). Why not BTW?

Grosjean - driver's circuit, 8th and in front of one quicker Force India, same time as the other, that's why it should be 1. Gros, 2. Bott, 3. Per for best cars choices

Vettel - slower than 37 year old Raikkonen, which means Ferrari were quite close to Merc. 3 places = another wasted GP.
Vettel was being faster but he made a mistake in the last lap. Anyway Kimi´s performance is(and has been) great. This is the real Kimi.
Vettel lost nothing more than a tenth with that mistake, If anything Raikkonen could have been even faster but had understeer, he has been complaining about understeer the whole weekend and wanted to increase front tyre pressure after Q2 and still had some understeer in his final lap, while Vettel is happy with his setup and balance.
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Silent Storm wrote:
Vasconia wrote:
iotar__ wrote:Rosberg's quicker again = driver's circuit, that's Suzuka x3, must be luck. Let's hope they both have a great start, as Hamilton put it we wouldn't want bad starts deciding the championship ;-). Why not BTW?

Grosjean - driver's circuit, 8th and in front of one quicker Force India, same time as the other, that's why it should be 1. Gros, 2. Bott, 3. Per for best cars choices

Vettel - slower than 37 year old Raikkonen, which means Ferrari were quite close to Merc. 3 places = another wasted GP.
Vettel was being faster but he made a mistake in the last lap. Anyway Kimi´s performance is(and has been) great. This is the real Kimi.
Vettel lost nothing more than a tenth with that mistake, If anything Raikkonen could have been even faster but had understeer, he has been complaining about understeer the whole weekend and wanted to increase front tyre pressure after Q2 and still had some understeer in his final lap, while Vettel is happy with his setup and balance.
Just because something is not transmitted on the radio does not mean in wasn't said. Personally I think vettel and raikkonen have been pretty much identical this weekend so far.

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Schuttelberg wrote:I'd dearly love the Mercs to take one another out. The rest of the field is tight!! A wet race will be boring with the Mercs in it. Hamilton will eat Rosberg alive, while on SnapChat! :lol:
Given the state of the championship, if Hamilton doesn't lead out of the first corner then I would be saddened but not surprised to see a repeat of Senna/Prost. Both great World Champions. Both did what they needed to do to win. When was the last time the Mercs managed to pass each other (or, often, other competitive cars) without pieces flying off. Grid/race penalties would be effectively pointless at that stage so there just isn't a downside.
Vasconia wrote:On the other and, race pace between Nico and Lewis is pretty similar but Nico has a bigger degradation which makes Lewis faster in the last laps of each stint. The race could be decided in those laps.
Undercut will more than make up for it.

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iotar__ wrote:Rosberg's quicker again = driver's circuit, that's Suzuka x3, must be luck.
:lol: =D> =D> =D>

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f1316 wrote:
Vasconia wrote:
Sevach wrote:That was close, Lewis woke up in Q3 but Rosberg still made it.

Ferrari seems very good through the esses didn't expect that.
They looked very good but as far as I know RB has a better race pace.

On the other and, race pace between Nico and Lewis is pretty similar but Nico has a bigger degradation which makes Lewis faster in the last laps of each stint. The race could be decided in those laps.

Have we real chances for a wet race? becase it was going to rain but... :roll:
This is basically the question I've been looking for answers on: how did Ferrari's race pace look in Q2?

Saw a lot about RB's being good but Ferrari's not mentioned. I guess that means it wasn't great - and of course Kimi was saying balance not good on Friday, so maybe it's changed - but can't find it anywhere for the life of me.
Pedro de la Rosa said On his analysis that Ferrari´s pace was a little bit worse than RB´s pace. So Kimi needs to stay ahead of them after the first lap. And Sebastian will need to make a great start and a different strategy, if not I see it difficult to end the race ahead of RB.

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Juzh wrote:
Silent Storm wrote:
Vasconia wrote:
Vettel was being faster but he made a mistake in the last lap. Anyway Kimi´s performance is(and has been) great. This is the real Kimi.
Vettel lost nothing more than a tenth with that mistake, If anything Raikkonen could have been even faster but had understeer, he has been complaining about understeer the whole weekend and wanted to increase front tyre pressure after Q2 and still had some understeer in his final lap, while Vettel is happy with his setup and balance.
Just because something is not transmitted on the radio does not mean in wasn't said. Personally I think vettel and raikkonen have been pretty much identical this weekend so far.
Yes, well perhaps Sebastian was slightly faster but the difference was almost inexistent.