2017 F1 general testing thread

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Re: 2017 F1 Pre-season testing February 27 - March 2/ March 7-10

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Just seen the Kimi incident.

A normal off doesn't include the back end overtaking the front end.

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Restomaniac wrote:Just seen the Kimi incident.

A normal off doesn't include the back end overtaking the front end.
"Kimi, the rear is faster than u"
If i would get the money to start my own F1 team, i would revive Arrows

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Re: 2017 F1 Pre-season testing February 27 - March 2/ March 7-10

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Mr.G wrote:
Are they woried, or just checking the competition? :P
Ferrari did the same (I don't remember if it was 2014 or 2015), but she was on the balcony on top of Mercedes garage :wink: :mrgreen:

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Re: 2017 F1 Pre-season testing February 27 - March 2/ March 7-10

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proteus wrote:
Restomaniac wrote:Just seen the Kimi incident.

A normal off doesn't include the back end overtaking the front end.
"Kimi, the rear is faster than u"
:lol: :lol:

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Re: 2017 F1 Pre-season testing February 27 - March 2/ March 7-10

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HAM did 20 laps on UltraSoft on 1:23 - 1:24, only 1 second degradation

I'm perplexed

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Red flag. Verstappen's stopped
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Re: 2017 F1 Pre-season testing February 27 - March 2/ March 7-10

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This is my observation. For every race where Mercedes used Ultra Soft last year, it was only for the first stint, after having qualified on them. It was least preferred tyre for the race. So, I would not be surprised if Lewis' run on US for those 20 laps is a first stint run.

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Re: 2017 F1 Pre-season testing February 27 - March 2/ March 7-10

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GPR-A wrote:
Wass85 wrote:
GPR-A wrote:I feel you are missing a lot of basics. It's not a negative statement. The big difference between testing and race is weather. Cars get slower in summer. Just to inform, last year Mercedes was faster in qualifying than in winter testing,, considering weather impact. They sandbagged. So there is every reason to believe they are doing same now. What you see is not what the are capable of, it's far from it.
I know all that and Massa set his time in April so if he had done that run in Feb-March he would have almost certainly gone faster.
I don't think you understand the difference between Bridstone tires and Pirelli either. If you know then you won't be making these irrelevant comparisons
But I do know the difference. These cars were meant to be the fastest cars ever despite running Pirelli's, despite being heavier, despite whatever reason you're going to give next.

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Re: 2017 F1 Pre-season testing February 27 - March 2/ March 7-10

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ripper wrote:HAM did 20 laps on UltraSoft on 1:23 - 1:24, only 1 second degradation

I'm perplexed
Your perplexed. I bet Ferrari and petrified.

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Wass85 wrote:
GPR-A wrote:
Wass85 wrote: I know all that and Massa set his time in April so if he had done that run in Feb-March he would have almost certainly gone faster.
I don't think you understand the difference between Bridstone tires and Pirelli either. If you know then you won't be making these irrelevant comparisons
But I do know the difference. These cars were meant to be the fastest cars ever despite running Pirelli's, despite being heavier, despite whatever reason you're going to give next.
Once again misinformed. FIA or FOM, never said they are changing the regulations to make the cars BECOME THE FASTEST EVER. The only objective is to make them go faster by 3 - 5 seconds. That was their simulation results, based on the changes they mandated for new cars.
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Re: 2017 F1 Pre-season testing February 27 - March 2/ March 7-10

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Wass85 wrote:
GPR-A wrote:
Wass85 wrote: I know all that and Massa set his time in April so if he had done that run in Feb-March he would have almost certainly gone faster.
I don't think you understand the difference between Bridstone tires and Pirelli either. If you know then you won't be making these irrelevant comparisons
But I do know the difference. These cars were meant to be the fastest cars ever despite running Pirelli's, despite being heavier, despite whatever reason you're going to give next.
Sorry Wass85, have to pick you up on this again. Where did you read that "these cars were meant to be the fastest cars ever"?? I'm curious
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Re: 2017 F1 Pre-season testing February 27 - March 2/ March 7-10

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20 laps on Ultras for Hamilton in a tire hungry circuit! I really feel those Hards are never going to be used this year...even the mediums! Maybe Pirelli took more in consideration predicted lap times at the end of the year! So by the last quarter of the championship we may see a lot more degradation because of cars getting a lot faster!
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AMG.Tzan wrote:20 laps on Ultras for Hamilton in a tire hungry circuit! I really feel those Hards are never going to be used this year...even the mediums! Maybe Pirelli took more in consideration predicted lap times at the end of the year! So by the last quarter of the championship we may see a lot more degradation because of cars getting a lot faster!
That run from Hamilton raises many questions! I've seen so many comments in the past two days that drivers couldn't seem get the US to last an entire lap, for Hamilton to do a 20 lap run with so little deg is quite amazing.

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Re: 2017 F1 Pre-season testing February 27 - March 2/ March 7-10

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Did I read that right? 20 laps on ultra soft? 1 sec degradation?!

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Morteza wrote:
Mr.G wrote:
Are they woried, or just checking the competition? :P
Ferrari did the same (I don't remember if it was 2014 or 2015), but she was on the balcony on top of Mercedes garage :wink: :mrgreen:

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2014 post season test.
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