2017 F1 general testing thread

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Re: 2017 F1 Pre-season testing February 27 - March 2/ March 7-10

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I'm becoming a bit annoyed over this obsession about fastest lap times. I understand there is some excitement given that these cars look to be able to beat the track records, but in light of comparing the top 3 contenders with each other?

Has anyone made a direct comparison of the race simulation stints? I can't find it in this topic anymore...
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16:23 The Ferrari has stopped just before the chicane, and Raikkonen is out of the car.

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The Ferrari went past our own Scott Mitchell "sounding sick", then it "conked out" and locked the rears in old penultimate corner, spinning Raikkonen around.
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Updated red flag tally after Raikkonen's latest stoppage;
- McLaren: 4
- Ferrari: 3
- Renault: 3
- Red Bull: 2
- Williams: 2
- Toro Rosso: 2
- Haas: 2
- Force India: 1
- Sauber: 1
- Mercedes: 0

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In order to reply to myself, here are the stint times reported by A-M-u-S ticker on Raikkoennen:

Stint 1 (SS)
1:24.5 - 1:24.7 - 1:25.0 - 1:26.9 - 1:25.4 - 1:25.5 - 1:25.6 - 1:25.5 - 1:25.5 - 1:25.9 - 1:26.0 - 1:26.1 - 1:25.7 - 1:25.9 - 1:26.6

Stint 2 (S)
1:25.9 - 1:24.1 - 1:24.8 - 1:24.7 - 1:24.7 - 1:24.6 - 1:25.0 - 1:24.7 - 1:24.7 - 1:24.1 - 1:25.0 - 1:24.8 - 1:24.7 - 1:24.5 - 1:24.3 - 1:24.1

Stind 3 (M)
-- unknown - terminated by self caused Red flagged.
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Footage of Kimi's stoppage can be seen here: https://twitter.com/Berrageiz/status/840222237248622592

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Xero wrote:Footage of Kimi's stoppage can be seen here: https://twitter.com/Berrageiz/status/840222237248622592
ERS failure?

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It seems more gearbox failure.

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Assuming they haven't changed it yet that's nothing to worry about, right? The amount of mileage collected is more than the gearbox must endure in the season

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If it was gearbox the engine would still be audible, I'd guess ICE.

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isullivan wrote:Nice to see Lance Stroll bouncing back from the problems he had in week one and doing solid mileage in the second week.
Bouncing back...no pun intended.
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Xero wrote:Updated red flag tally after Raikkonen's latest stoppage;
- McLaren: 4
- Ferrari: 3
- Renault: 3
- Red Bull: 2
- Williams: 2
- Toro Rosso: 2
- Haas: 2
- Force India: 1
- Sauber: 1
- Mercedes: 0
The thing is, I'm sure McLaren would be more than happy with a few red flags if they were burning up the time sheets; the problem is, as Alonso said, they're neither faster nor reliable.

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Phil wrote:I'm becoming a bit annoyed over this obsession about fastest lap times. I understand there is some excitement given that these cars look to be able to beat the track records, but in light of comparing the top 3 contenders with each other?

Has anyone made a direct comparison of the race simulation stints? I can't find it in this topic anymore...
James Allen had one on his site: https://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2017/03/ ... inal-test/
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Sad news today...
John Surtees has passed away, aged 83...
Rest in peace

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Phil wrote:I'm becoming a bit annoyed over this obsession about fastest lap times. I understand there is some excitement given that these cars look to be able to beat the track records, but in light of comparing the top 3 contenders with each other?
Well I find comparing laptimes between teams during winter testing to be a bit of a waste of time, given it's testing and the hammer won't be dropped until the race weekend. So I expect we'll either see Mercedes stride off into the distance as the last couple of seasons with a crest fallen Ferrari or it'll be a closer fight.
Has anyone made a direct comparison of the race simulation stints? I can't find it in this topic anymore...
Don't think so, I'm sure somebody will once testing is done and dusted. Something to mull over until Free Practise.

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f1316 wrote: The thing is, I'm sure McLaren would be more than happy with a few red flags if they were burning up the time sheets; the problem is, as Alonso said, they're neither faster nor reliable.
Completely agree! Again, my point was only to disprove McLaren's disruption to other teams, nothing more. :)