Err no, they are far from Ferrari too.
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Renault Sport Racing and McLaren Racing are pleased to announce they have agreed an engine supply partnership for the 2018, 2019 and 2020 seasons. The deal will see Renault Sport Racing supply McLaren with Formula 1 power units, while also establishing a close working relationship with McLaren’s engineers and technicians.
If they´d be far from Ferrari, Ricciardo wouldn´t be passing Mercedes powered cars in Baku as he didVasconia wrote: ↑20 Jul 2017, 09:15Err no, they are far from Ferrari too.
I don´t read that statement as if he´s saying with a Mercedes PU they´d be winning. I take it as a praise to his chassis and aero teams who are so good both Ferrari and Mercedes are afraid to provide their PUs to McLaren just in case their car is better and they beat them with their own PUTAG wrote: ↑19 Jul 2017, 14:46This would be funny if McLaren hadn't gotten rid of the Mercedes PU deal at the beginning of this new regulation era. I'm not sure if Zak doesn't know that or if perhaps he's doing all he can to keep up spirits. Regardless, you can't sell now the idea that they'd be winners if only they had the Merc PU, when the rationale for getting rid of the Merc PU was due to the fact they felt they'd never be able to get on par with the works teams.
Honda is the path forward.
I don't know if that is an official rule. However, I think the FIA would only a new PU of the most recent specification, not a different specification.
Rb has a great chasis, though not as good as expected, and they are improving it almost in every race. The also have a great race pace but if we talk about peak power Renault is still behind.Andres125sx wrote: ↑20 Jul 2017, 17:24If they´d be far from Ferrari, Ricciardo wouldn´t be passing Mercedes powered cars in Baku as he did
He suggests that Sauber may have to stick with Ferrari for another year.The major chat in F1 circles at the moment is all about engines and it is getting interesting. Sauber seemed to have the basis of a deal with Honda (it was announced by Honda and they tend not to be silly) but the word is that in order to get Frédéric Vasseur Sauber has had to agree to switch engines.
RedBull selling STR to Honda? Wow, that would be something. But even if Honda simply supplies them, watch RBR snap up those PU's the minute they become competitive.This means that McLaren’s only choice is to stay with Honda, or switch to Renault. No-one wants to see Honda kicked out of F1, least of all Honda, and the word is that the Japanese firm may do a deal with Toro Rosso (or perhaps even buy the team) so that they can remain in F1 until they can get the engines up to speed. Red Bull needs only insert a clause in any Toro Rosso deal saying that Red Bull Racing can have the units if they become competitive and Red Bull’s engine problems would be solved. It is a big if, but it is better than drifting on as is now happening. I have heard that there is still no real contract between Red Bull and Renault because of discussions over oil companies and so on, but going straight to Honda would be a bit radical so letting Toro Rosso take the pain, or selling the team (which Red Bull has wanted to do for a while) makes sense. That would mean McLaren with Renault engines, which would be just about OK, even if it would be a bit of a risk for the Renault team. Still, they are getting beaten at the moment by Red Bull, and sometimes Toro Rosso, so clearly they need to improve. Would a McLaren-Renault be sufficient to keep Fernando Alonso? Does he have any other real choices?
I've been wrong before, but I don't see McLaren making their own PU's. Road cars is one thing, F1 is a whole different hog altogether. But Renault as an interim solution does sound plausible to me. Just to hold them over and at least score points regularly, perhaps even podium finishes and the occasional victory.Has McLaren finally decided to split with Honda? Who can say? But it is fare to say that the team has given the Japanese firm plenty of chances to improve. I would guess that there are two design teams busy in Woking, one for one engine, the other for the other. A decision must come back September. Going to Renault is not a great option for Woking, but it would be better than where the team is now and my feeling is that in 2021 the team will have its own engines . McLaren is already making its own road car power units and it is only logical to go down this path in the future. That will add to the value as and when there is a McLaren IPO is 2022 or 2023.
i would like to see that with Ferrari and Mercedes too, and Renault.
Rbr would probably still be faster with McLaren close behind
Crystal Ball racing ...I like that ?
