On the back of his first pole position last weekend, Mercedes driver Valtteri Bottas topped the second day of in-season testing at Sakhir. The Finn ejoyed a trouble-free day and completed a massive 143 laps.
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it is quite difficult to tell...no traffic, no tire, fuel and engine saving, new parts. At least theres competitive consistency which at this time is keyGerhardsa wrote: ↑02 Aug 2017, 15:37Just saw this in terms of laptimes on a longer run from Kubica.
Kubica's last run: 1:21.2, 1:21.4, 1:21.3, 1:21.3, 1:21.5, 1:21.1, 1:21.5, 1:21.0, 1:21.6, 1:21.5, 1:21.3, 1:21.3.
Whats the chance of this being a comparison with the pace during the race ?
Seems pretty close to the speeds from about the middle to the last quarter of the race. (generally speaking)
Rarely except with Brawn and Red Bull winning five of the last 8.djos wrote: ↑20 Apr 2017, 11:12oh rubbish, you rarely get to the top of F1 with a customer engine, Mclaren did the right thing bringing Honda back into the sport - unfortunately Honda have made a lot of mistakes along the way ... however if they can eventually produce a competitive PU, then it all the pain will make the victories that much more satisfying for Mclaren.
TAG wrote: ↑02 Aug 2017, 16:42Rarely except with Brawn and Red Bull winning five of the last 8.djos wrote: ↑20 Apr 2017, 11:12oh rubbish, you rarely get to the top of F1 with a customer engine, Mclaren did the right thing bringing Honda back into the sport - unfortunately Honda have made a lot of mistakes along the way ... however if they can eventually produce a competitive PU, then it all the pain will make the victories that much more satisfying for Mclaren.
It would be the right thing if it worked. It was a gamble that Dennis was willing to make and it didn't pay off. I should say hasn't paid off. At this point the conversation has been had as to why their best option is to stick with Honda but when you say they can "eventually produce a competitive PU"; Even under the most optimistic conditions, they'd get maybe two seasons of being a bonafied competitor for a championship before the new PU regulations kick in 2021. At best this can be described as a failure at worst a catastrophe. The ship of ever being able to call this a success has long sailed.
In 2021 with PUs being made less complex, we're likely to see more manufacturer options on the PU market and therefore no real reason to stay with Honda long term.
The reality is that RedBull where the Renault works team in everything but name, they even had Renault-Nissan alliance infiniti backing which included a technical partnership.Ennis wrote: ↑02 Aug 2017, 17:01TAG wrote: ↑02 Aug 2017, 16:42Rarely except with Brawn and Red Bull winning five of the last 8.djos wrote: ↑20 Apr 2017, 11:12oh rubbish, you rarely get to the top of F1 with a customer engine, Mclaren did the right thing bringing Honda back into the sport - unfortunately Honda have made a lot of mistakes along the way ... however if they can eventually produce a competitive PU, then it all the pain will make the victories that much more satisfying for Mclaren.
It would be the right thing if it worked. It was a gamble that Dennis was willing to make and it didn't pay off. I should say hasn't paid off. At this point the conversation has been had as to why their best option is to stick with Honda but when you say they can "eventually produce a competitive PU"; Even under the most optimistic conditions, they'd get maybe two seasons of being a bonafied competitor for a championship before the new PU regulations kick in 2021. At best this can be described as a failure at worst a catastrophe. The ship of ever being able to call this a success has long sailed.
In 2021 with PUs being made less complex, we're likely to see more manufacturer options on the PU market and therefore no real reason to stay with Honda long term.
Red Bull weren't a normal customer. I think perhaps the better thing for him to have said is "you rarely get to the top of F1 with a customer engine, whilst the supplier has a fully-fledged team".
McLaren could not have competed with Mercedes.
RK ended p4 in the timings on ultras. Without knowing what kit or program they were running, it seems like a decent showing with some really consistent times thrown in.f1316 wrote: ↑02 Aug 2017, 14:54
From following the test here https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/live ... rn-937643/ he seems to be on a long run but don't think it's a race sim.
From that report - RK basically, was at the very least, no worse than they'd have expected from any active race driver on the grid. Can't judge outright driver (or car) performance, but definitly impressed.netoperek wrote: ↑08 Aug 2017, 00:54RK did not do any qually sim laps according to Renault engineer Ricardo Penteado (source: http://globoesporte.globo.com/motor/for ... bica.ghtml ). He was supposed to, but red flag fever at the end of the test prevented it. So it seems, that his best lap was made on "race trim" with a bit more of a fuel load. Anyways, how good or bad were his times, only Renault team would know. Think of it that way, if You were in Renault's shoes, would You show all the cards?
Yes, took me a while to find a sheet with tyres shown (probably already posted in here, but just in case:
That was a live ticker, so the tyres are most likely what they ran on their final stint, not necessarily what they wore for thier fastest time.avatar wrote: ↑08 Aug 2017, 20:28Yes, took me a while to find a sheet with tyres shown (probably already posted in here, but just in case:
http://www.gpupdate.net/en/testresults/ ... gust-2017/
