2017 United States Grand Prix - COTA, 20-22 October

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Re: 2017 United States Grand Prix - COTA, 20-22 October

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What a great race, a lot of overtakes and very good battles between the top drivers. If only all races were like this.
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I only saw the side one and it looked good? .... i still feel max deserved to be on the podium and then demote him after for all i care :D
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marvin78 wrote:
22 Oct 2017, 22:51
It is a well derserved penalty. The rules are clear.
Indeed they are. It's a shame the stewards haven't watched the cars at turn 10 all weekend.

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bauc wrote:
22 Oct 2017, 22:54
What a great race, a lot of overtakes and very good battles between the top drivers. If only all races were like this.
And if only Hamilton wasnt cruising

Wtf with Bolt there.. jesus

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marvin78 wrote:
22 Oct 2017, 22:54
Restomaniac wrote:
22 Oct 2017, 22:53
NathanOlder wrote:
22 Oct 2017, 22:50


Onlyb1 car left the track on the Inside while passing a car for position though.
It's the selective ruling though.
No it's not.
Of course it is. Turn 9 ALL weekend.

'Let's ignore leaving the track all weekend and then at the end of the race hammer someone for leaving the track'. Gotcha stewards, Gotcha.
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I enjoyed a lot watching this race, superb Hamilton, well deserved victory. Today FER was too slow for him.


Well deserved WCC to MER, hats off. I hope that next year FER and RBR will give them more headache. Now I'll try to understand why VES was demoted to P4

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There was no overtake in the other cases.

There is another thing. Verstappen got away often. He was very lucky in several races where he did not drive according the rules. But this was very clear. Deserved penalty. Have a neutral look at it and you can see that.

That does not make his race smaller, which was very good.

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marvin78 wrote:
22 Oct 2017, 22:58
There was no overtake.

There is another thing. Verstappen got away often. He was very lucky in several races where he did not drive according the rules. But this was very clear. Deserved penalty. Have a neutral look at it and you can see that.

That does not make his race smaller, which was very good.
He has been penalised for leaving the track. Has he not?

I'm not Max fan BTW.
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Restomaniac wrote:
22 Oct 2017, 22:56
marvin78 wrote:
22 Oct 2017, 22:54
Restomaniac wrote:
22 Oct 2017, 22:53
It's the selective ruling though.
No it's not.
Of course it is. Turn 10 ALL weekend.

'Let's ignore leaving the track all weekend and then at the end of the race hammer someone for leaving the track'. Gotcha stewards, Gotcha.
But no one was cutting inside and overtaking someone. Its completely acceptable to penalise Max.
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Edax wrote:
22 Oct 2017, 22:54
Fully agree. As an F1 fan you can only object to this descision and give max the credit he deserves. Just look at Raikkonen his body language. Credit to him he knows that he was beaten fair and square and shouldn’t be on that podium.
Part of the battle is each person positioning their car. If one person thinks you can't drive off the track to overtake, how does he defend when his adversary does exactly that? It's no different to just driving straight through a chicane and then declaring how awesome an overtake it was.

As an aside...Red Bull faster than Ferrari? Ominous for Ferrari going into next season.
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Isnt there a point to be made that max only left the track due to being squeezed by kimi?
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NathanOlder wrote:
22 Oct 2017, 22:59
Restomaniac wrote:
22 Oct 2017, 22:56
marvin78 wrote:
22 Oct 2017, 22:54


No it's not.
Of course it is. Turn 10 ALL weekend.

'Let's ignore leaving the track all weekend and then at the end of the race hammer someone for leaving the track'. Gotcha stewards, Gotcha.
But no one was cutting inside and overtaking someone. Its completely acceptable to penalise Max.
Leaving the track is leaving the track.

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Nobody was going wide at turn 10 and making an overtaking!!! That is why Verstapen was penalized.
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CriXus wrote:
22 Oct 2017, 23:02
No one was going wide at turn 10 and making an overtaking!!! That is why Verstapen was penalized.
He was penalised for having all 4 wheels off the track.

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FIA don't want any driver to cut a curve, put a grass stripe after kerb, easy, simple, and not rule selective