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McMrocks wrote: ↑
01 Mar 2018, 01:14
I once posted the question as to wether how these slots in the floor are legal. There are no small cuts which would make the contour one homogenous line. So how it is legal?
If you zoom it you can see that they are connected with each other and with the floor.
They are stiff so it is enough little cut one or two milimetre to make it legal. They aren't holes.
Edit: when i look better must say, i don't know πŸ˜€

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McMrocks wrote: ↑
01 Mar 2018, 01:14
I once posted the question as to wether how these slots in the floor are legal. There are no small cuts which would make the contour one homogenous line. So how it is legal?
My only thought is that they AREN'T legal today, but McLaren don't want to show other teams how to make them legal before Australia.

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radosav wrote: ↑
01 Mar 2018, 01:18
McMr[img wrote:[/img]ocks post_id=742817 time=1519859643 user_id=14381]
I once posted the question as to wether how these slots in the floor are legal. There are no small cuts which would make the contour one homogenous line. So how it is legal?
If you zoom it you can see that they are connected with each other and with the floor.
They are stiff so it is enough little cut one or two milimetre to make it legal. They aren't holes.
Edit: when i look better must say, i don't know πŸ˜€
Yes i looked closely at the pictures on previous page. There aren't any small cuts that would make it one line.

McL32 had this to make it legal:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIkPWVeXUAER-x8.jpg

but there aren't any cuts this year. I guess they will add them later.

But at with the length of the cuts it seems very difficult to get it done. Aerodynamic forces at 300+ kph are enormous

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McMrocks wrote: ↑
01 Mar 2018, 01:37
radosav wrote: ↑
01 Mar 2018, 01:18
McMr[url wrote:[/url] ocks post_id=742817 time=1519859643 user_id=14381]
I once posted the question as to wether how these slots in the floor are legal. There are no small cuts which would make the contour one homogenous line. So how it is legal?
If you zoom it you can see that they are connected with each other and with the floor.
They are stiff so it is enough little cut one or two milimetre to make it legal. They aren't holes.
Edit: when i look better must say, i don't know πŸ˜€
Yes i looked closely at the pictures on previous page. There aren't any small cuts that would make it one line.

McL32 had this to make it legal:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIkPWVeXUAER-x8.jpg

but there aren't any cuts this year. I guess they will add them later.

But at with the length of the cuts it seems very difficult to get it done. Aerodynamic forces at 300+ kph are enormous
Could they do that with those connectors connecting floor and slots maybe?

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radosav wrote: ↑
01 Mar 2018, 01:46
McMrocks wrote: ↑
01 Mar 2018, 01:37
radosav wrote: ↑
01 Mar 2018, 01:18

If you zoom it you can see that they are connected with each other and with the floor.
They are stiff so it is enough little cut one or two milimetre to make it legal. They aren't holes.
Edit: when i look better must say, i don't know πŸ˜€
Yes i looked closely at the pictures on previous page. There aren't any small cuts that would make it one line.

McL32 had this to make it legal:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIkPWVeXUAER-x8.jpg

but there aren't any cuts this year. I guess they will add them later.

But at with the length of the cuts it seems very difficult to get it done. Aerodynamic forces at 300+ kph are enormous
Could they do that with those connectors connecting floor and slots maybe?
They cannot connect.They aren't allowed to touch each other (even though they do, due to flexing, but FiA doesn't care). You need to able able to look through the slot from directly underneatch. So it isn't possible to transfer any vertical forces. The slots aim at forcing air down underneatch the floor which would create a vertical force which can't be transfered because of the rules. Apart from that little force which is created by friction when the two aluminium parts touch due to flexing

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rear suspension detail
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I'm wondering why nobody is copying the rear wing endplates. Are the benefits not so evident or is the system too complex?

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I hope after this photo we will stop writing and thinkig that side-pod deflectors are there to pick up front tyre wake and magically make it a good-boy laminar flow. At least people here, Gary A sure as hell won't stop with that. :)

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And they call it a stall. A STALL!

#DwarvesAreNaturalSprinters
#BlessYouLaddie

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ALO_Power wrote: ↑
28 Feb 2018, 21:32
Do we know if they kept the same body work (engine cover) for today as well? Because also Alonso's car today had the same "burn marks" and actually on both sides (on one side it's pretty dim tho).
They had cut a hole in the engine cover yesterday:

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Godius wrote: ↑
01 Mar 2018, 09:45
ALO_Power wrote: ↑
28 Feb 2018, 21:32
Do we know if they kept the same body work (engine cover) for today as well? Because also Alonso's car today had the same "burn marks" and actually on both sides (on one side it's pretty dim tho).
They had cut a hole in the engine cover yesterday:

https://i.imgur.com/qq1Fziq.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Fi8HBfJ.jpg

via marca
I am quite sure these holes where there from day 1 ...
I loved the iconic McLaren-Honda
But most of all i love McLaren . After all first contact made with M23 that had a Ford Cosworth PU

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cyclon wrote: ↑
01 Mar 2018, 10:12
Godius wrote: ↑
01 Mar 2018, 09:45
ALO_Power wrote: ↑
28 Feb 2018, 21:32
Do we know if they kept the same body work (engine cover) for today as well? Because also Alonso's car today had the same "burn marks" and actually on both sides (on one side it's pretty dim tho).
They had cut a hole in the engine cover yesterday:

https://i.imgur.com/qq1Fziq.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Fi8HBfJ.jpg

via marca
I am quite sure these holes where there from day 1 ...
Okay, this Marca site is not that reliable then. Thanks for the heads up.

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Still using old engine cover today.
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Close-up of Rear Suspension.

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cyclon wrote: ↑
01 Mar 2018, 10:12
Godius wrote: ↑
01 Mar 2018, 09:45
ALO_Power wrote: ↑
28 Feb 2018, 21:32
Do we know if they kept the same body work (engine cover) for today as well? Because also Alonso's car today had the same "burn marks" and actually on both sides (on one side it's pretty dim tho).
They had cut a hole in the engine cover yesterday:

https://i.imgur.com/qq1Fziq.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Fi8HBfJ.jpg

via marca
I am quite sure these holes where there from day 1 ...
Nopes. You can see photos of day 1 in this thread, they were not present on day 1.

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makecry wrote: ↑
01 Mar 2018, 10:34
cyclon wrote: ↑
01 Mar 2018, 10:12
Godius wrote: ↑
01 Mar 2018, 09:45


They had cut a hole in the engine cover yesterday:

https://i.imgur.com/qq1Fziq.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Fi8HBfJ.jpg

via marca
I am quite sure these holes where there from day 1 ...
Nopes. You can see photos of day 1 in this thread, they were not present on day 1.
Then they were present on day 2, probably before the overheating (pics with engineers cooling cooling those inlets)