thnx for video damn it would made a good show i think it was possible to overtake SVD after KM
needless move from KM could've been caused big damage for both cars
What does McLaren have to do anything with this? Also Hartley didnt beat either one of them. And no one was gloating but by bringing McLaren in an irrelevant thread and comment, it's less of gloating on his side and more of insecurity on yours.McMika98 wrote: ↑29 Apr 2018, 20:10Yes, with one of the worst chassis and drivers. The car was the slowest in the slow speed sectors. My heart sank when even Sauber was pulling away in the narrow sections where you would have thought that engine power would be a non factor. It wasnt the straight line power that was the issue, every car would be within few tenths before the long straight due to the piss poor traction.
Oh btw Mclaren is the worst Renault powered car now. Hartley beat one of them in a fair fight. So no need to gloat.
You could say potential. Or just a fluke. Or competitors who underdelivered. What we know is that the Mercedes costumers now can run high power modes for longer. Also Force India seems to have taken an significant step forward.
This ties in with Tanabe's comments post-race about how the whole package lost speed on race day, even over the practice and quali sessions. He also said Honda is still behind power wise, but only slightly, a fact which they are well aware of, so not too much new information there. Just another perspective.baybars wrote: ↑02 May 2018, 07:29I was being passed before the DRS zones’ – Gasly
I think first lap was good and with all the mess around I was P10 or P9. So really happy about that because I was in a good position.
And then after that was really a difficult situation because every lap I got overtaken in the straight even before the DRS zone and was massive delta of speed
https://www.racefans.net/2018/05/01/rac ... -up-01-05/
If you are not being able to defend before the DRS activation point it means poor traction the corner before. Of course there is more complex explanation for this but that's how i see it! The start/finish line speed indicates traction rather than pure power(braking point). But of course traction is affected by downforce and perhaps they trimmed the wings because of power deficit. I think, we didn't even see McL to get passed before DRS activation zone last years(arguably worst PU)!GhostF1 wrote: ↑02 May 2018, 08:34This ties in with Tanabe's comments post-race about how the whole package lost speed on race day, even over the practice and quali sessions. He also said Honda is still behind power wise, but only slightly, a fact which they are well aware of, so not too much new information there. Just another perspective.baybars wrote: ↑02 May 2018, 07:29I was being passed before the DRS zones’ – Gasly
I think first lap was good and with all the mess around I was P10 or P9. So really happy about that because I was in a good position.
And then after that was really a difficult situation because every lap I got overtaken in the straight even before the DRS zone and was massive delta of speed
https://www.racefans.net/2018/05/01/rac ... -up-01-05/
So now you see, there are some benefits to running more downforce on this track like mclaren did last year.vassilispapadop wrote: ↑02 May 2018, 11:09If you are not being able to defend before the DRS activation point it means poor traction the corner before. Of course there is more complex explanation for this but that's how i see it! The start/finish line speed indicates traction rather than pure power(braking point). But of course traction is affected by downforce and perhaps they trimmed the wings because of power deficit. I think, we didn't even see McL to get passed before DRS activation zone last years(arguably worst PU)!GhostF1 wrote: ↑02 May 2018, 08:34This ties in with Tanabe's comments post-race about how the whole package lost speed on race day, even over the practice and quali sessions. He also said Honda is still behind power wise, but only slightly, a fact which they are well aware of, so not too much new information there. Just another perspective.baybars wrote: ↑02 May 2018, 07:29I was being passed before the DRS zones’ – Gasly
I think first lap was good and with all the mess around I was P10 or P9. So really happy about that because I was in a good position.
And then after that was really a difficult situation because every lap I got overtaken in the straight even before the DRS zone and was massive delta of speed
https://www.racefans.net/2018/05/01/rac ... -up-01-05/
So now you see? Do you know me?Alonso Fan wrote: ↑02 May 2018, 12:21So now you see, there are some benefits to running more downforce on this track like mclaren did last year.vassilispapadop wrote: ↑02 May 2018, 11:09If you are not being able to defend before the DRS activation point it means poor traction the corner before. Of course there is more complex explanation for this but that's how i see it! The start/finish line speed indicates traction rather than pure power(braking point). But of course traction is affected by downforce and perhaps they trimmed the wings because of power deficit. I think, we didn't even see McL to get passed before DRS activation zone last years(arguably worst PU)!GhostF1 wrote: ↑02 May 2018, 08:34
This ties in with Tanabe's comments post-race about how the whole package lost speed on race day, even over the practice and quali sessions. He also said Honda is still behind power wise, but only slightly, a fact which they are well aware of, so not too much new information there. Just another perspective.
Arguably? Get real
Last years Honda was not arguably worse like you stated. It was definitely without a shadow of a doubt worse. On pace and reliability. That's what I clarified from your postvassilispapadop wrote: ↑02 May 2018, 14:29So now you see? Do you know me?Alonso Fan wrote: ↑02 May 2018, 12:21So now you see, there are some benefits to running more downforce on this track like mclaren did last year.vassilispapadop wrote: ↑02 May 2018, 11:09
If you are not being able to defend before the DRS activation point it means poor traction the corner before. Of course there is more complex explanation for this but that's how i see it! The start/finish line speed indicates traction rather than pure power(braking point). But of course traction is affected by downforce and perhaps they trimmed the wings because of power deficit. I think, we didn't even see McL to get passed before DRS activation zone last years(arguably worst PU)!
Arguably? Get real
Get real? So Honda 2017 was better than Honda 2018?
McL and downforce? Better post on different thread, Here is about TR-Honda