2018/2019 WEC

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Andres125sx wrote:
03 May 2018, 20:17
I´m a bit surprised about the lap time difference around Spa when compared to F1. 1:58.3 for LMP1 (FP1) when F1 did 1:45.5 (FP1 too). I know they´re different philosophies, but didn´t know the difference is so big, specially when taking into account the dramatic drag difference between the two categories. Power is similar, so obvioulsy the difference comes from DF

Obviously LMP1 cars don´t have a front wing comparable to F1 cars. What about the floor? It is that different too?

As you may guess, this is my first time watching WEC. I´m eager to see Alonso winning something, almost as much as himself :mrgreen:
:D I really hope that he wins the 24h of Le Mans, but i can't stop to think about how unfortunate Toyota has been there, and Alonso who is someone who we can't say have been lucky in recent years... hope they can brake spell.

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DiogoBrand wrote:
03 May 2018, 23:33
Andres125sx wrote:
03 May 2018, 20:17
I´m a bit surprised about the lap time difference around Spa when compared to F1. 1:58.3 for LMP1 (FP1) when F1 did 1:45.5 (FP1 too). I know they´re different philosophies, but didn´t know the difference is so big, specially when taking into account the dramatic drag difference between the two categories. Power is similar, so obvioulsy the difference comes from DF

Obviously LMP1 cars don´t have a front wing comparable to F1 cars. What about the floor? It is that different too?

As you may guess, this is my first time watching WEC. I´m eager to see Alonso winning something, almost as much as himself :mrgreen:
I'm not sure if downforce is so much lower. they have front diffusers, a bigger floor area and wider rear wings, not to mention lower turbulence from the covered wheels.
I guess that weight and their rock hard tyres are a bigger part of that difference.
Interesting, thanks. What´s the min weight for LMP1?

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Andres125sx wrote:
04 May 2018, 20:20
DiogoBrand wrote:
03 May 2018, 23:33
Andres125sx wrote:
03 May 2018, 20:17
I´m a bit surprised about the lap time difference around Spa when compared to F1. 1:58.3 for LMP1 (FP1) when F1 did 1:45.5 (FP1 too). I know they´re different philosophies, but didn´t know the difference is so big, specially when taking into account the dramatic drag difference between the two categories. Power is similar, so obvioulsy the difference comes from DF

Obviously LMP1 cars don´t have a front wing comparable to F1 cars. What about the floor? It is that different too?

As you may guess, this is my first time watching WEC. I´m eager to see Alonso winning something, almost as much as himself :mrgreen:
I'm not sure if downforce is so much lower. they have front diffusers, a bigger floor area and wider rear wings, not to mention lower turbulence from the covered wheels.
I guess that weight and their rock hard tyres are a bigger part of that difference.
Interesting, thanks. What´s the min weight for LMP1?
Wikipedia says 875Kg before driver and fuel. And like Sevach said, even though peak power is similar to F1, they spend way less time there.

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DiogoBrand wrote:
04 May 2018, 21:44
Andres125sx wrote:
04 May 2018, 20:20
DiogoBrand wrote:
03 May 2018, 23:33


I'm not sure if downforce is so much lower. they have front diffusers, a bigger floor area and wider rear wings, not to mention lower turbulence from the covered wheels.
I guess that weight and their rock hard tyres are a bigger part of that difference.
Interesting, thanks. What´s the min weight for LMP1?
Wikipedia says 875Kg before driver and fuel. And like Sevach said, even though peak power is similar to F1, they spend way less time there.
Limited use of energy per lap, and no DRS. With no energy limits and a DRS those car are faster

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void wrote:
05 May 2018, 00:05
DiogoBrand wrote:
04 May 2018, 21:44
Andres125sx wrote:
04 May 2018, 20:20


Interesting, thanks. What´s the min weight for LMP1?
Wikipedia says 875Kg before driver and fuel. And like Sevach said, even though peak power is similar to F1, they spend way less time there.
Limited use of energy per lap, and no DRS. With no energy limits and a DRS those car are faster
Drs gives you around .3 of a second a lap, insignificant for a difference of around 15 seconds. And energy deployment alone won't make up for 15 seconds as well. Porsche had to extract more power from their ERS, ICE, reduce weight and add a lot of downforce to brat an F1 car.
So no, even with no energy limit and DRS those cars aren't faster.

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Alonso's car will start on pole after the car that set the pole was disqualified for problems with their fuel flow sensors.
The #7 Toyota will start from the pitlane after every car has completed the first lap.

Those of you that wanted Alonso on the top step of the podium will get their wish, i think the #7 still finishes second honestly.

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Is there any place to watch the race Live?

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DiogoBrand wrote:
05 May 2018, 15:57
Is there any place to watch the race Live?
Try r/motorsport, few links to streams there. Someone has one on youtube right now but it's title is something in Russian so it can't be searched easily.

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BOP wars going on already.

I hope Aston isn't sandbagging only to have a supercar at Le Mans.

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Alonso back behind the wheel to close out the race. The last hour, and one half can be viewed on the Velocity channel in the U.S.
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Can't believe with all the cameras around Eu Rouge that none of them picked up the SMP crash.

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Toyota PR department won't let the #7 win the race.

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Sevach wrote:
05 May 2018, 19:15
Toyota PR department won't let the #7 win the race.
indeed. Fernando still had to drive it home though

8)

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Fernando demonstrated some pure masterclass on his first attempt on something different and on a completely stranger team to him and the sh@ttalking started already. You realize that in WEC they play with different fuel loads and tires, right? Grats to Fernando, finally his skills has been shown again! (it was also shown even in Indy/Daytona).

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Good to see him back on the top step. Didn’t watch the whole race but can only recall one mistake when Conway was close and Alonso couldn’t decide which way to go to overtake the cars in front and nearly hit them, didn’t cost him though as Conway pitted
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