How so? Monaco showed nicely how quickly the Hyper-Soft degrades, despite the slow speeds. If anything, I think the HS will prove to be a fantastic qualifying tire (e.g. deliver the fastest possible one-lap-pace), but not be a good race-tire. And contrary to Monaco, you can overtake in Canada, so not being able to run your pace on a compromised tire will make you vulnerable to overtakes.
Dont know if you can compare Monaco and Gilles Villeneuve Track regarding the tyres, but I reckon RB (Ricciardo) didn't wreck his HS in Moncao. So we will wait and see how the HS run on this track...Phil wrote: ↑01 Jun 2018, 10:38How so? Monaco showed nicely how quickly the Hyper-Soft degrades, despite the slow speeds. If anything, I think the HS will prove to be a fantastic qualifying tire (e.g. deliver the fastest possible one-lap-pace), but not be a good race-tire. And contrary to Monaco, you can overtake in Canada, so not being able to run your pace on a compromised tire will make you vulnerable to overtakes.
I personally think Mercedes are better set-up for the race, if anything (strictly looking at tire allocation).
I seriously believe it is not fare to compare Monaco tyre Behaviour with any other tracks tyre behavior. Simple because.. Monaco has many slow corners that dont put much energy into the front tyres and traction zones which use rear tyres occationallly .. Since, the character of this circuit is slow it is tough to maintain the working temps on the tyres and hence cause graining...Phil wrote: ↑01 Jun 2018, 11:43The RedBull has usually been the best car on the softest compound, so yes, I would think their car is the car to beat where tire wear is concerned. However, as you did say, Monaco and Canada are very different tracks. On the former, you can obviously get away with driving 5 seconds off the pace without being overtaken. This prolonged the HS tire life. This will not be possible in Canada as you will be eaten for breakfast easily.
All indications so far is that the HS is great qualifying tire, not more. It was designed for this purpose and Monaco demonstrated this nicely. And as for the test in Abu Dhabi - "praise" can mean many different things. Praising it for outright performance? Yes - undisputed. Praising for longevity? That I am not sure of. Monaco certainly didn't demonstrate that. I don't think the HS was ever conceived to be a very durable tire. It was designed for street tracks and a low temperature operating window - tracks that don't have many high downforce (energy) corners and therefore tire temperatures are on the lower side. In that sense, Monaco and Canada are not that dissimilar.
After Monaco, I think Mercedes will be quite pleased with their tire allocation. Obviously we all don't know how FP1-3 will pan out and what the simulation runs will show, but when the tire allocations were made, I assume the overall strategy for Mercedes was that they would probably try to use the HS for Q1 and Q3 and use US/SS for the race.
If I am not wrong Monaco´s problem was more related to graining, so I think that the problem won´t be the same in Canada, a totally different track. I think its too early to judge but I would be surprised if Ferrari has the same problems.Phil wrote: ↑01 Jun 2018, 10:38How so? Monaco showed nicely how quickly the Hyper-Soft degrades, despite the slow speeds. If anything, I think the HS will prove to be a fantastic qualifying tire (e.g. deliver the fastest possible one-lap-pace), but not be a good race-tire. And contrary to Monaco, you can overtake in Canada, so not being able to run your pace on a compromised tire will make you vulnerable to overtakes.
I personally think Mercedes are better set-up for the race, if anything (strictly looking at tire allocation).
Gasly did half the race on HS, Ricciardo sure could have gone a lot longer than he did but it was safer to respond to Vettel and Hamilton.Vasconia wrote: ↑01 Jun 2018, 12:46If I am not wrong Monaco´s problem was more related to graining, so I think that the problem won´t be the same in Canada, a totally different track. I think its too early to judge but I would be surprised if Ferrari has the same problems.Phil wrote: ↑01 Jun 2018, 10:38How so? Monaco showed nicely how quickly the Hyper-Soft degrades, despite the slow speeds. If anything, I think the HS will prove to be a fantastic qualifying tire (e.g. deliver the fastest possible one-lap-pace), but not be a good race-tire. And contrary to Monaco, you can overtake in Canada, so not being able to run your pace on a compromised tire will make you vulnerable to overtakes.
I personally think Mercedes are better set-up for the race, if anything (strictly looking at tire allocation).
Totally agree. The only thing who saved top 6 drivers in Monaco who were suffering with the HS, was the unlikely opportunity to overtake. With the backstraight of Canada after the hairpin, we will see a different story.Phil wrote: ↑01 Jun 2018, 10:38How so? Monaco showed nicely how quickly the Hyper-Soft degrades, despite the slow speeds. If anything, I think the HS will prove to be a fantastic qualifying tire (e.g. deliver the fastest possible one-lap-pace), but not be a good race-tire. And contrary to Monaco, you can overtake in Canada, so not being able to run your pace on a compromised tire will make you vulnerable to overtakes.
I personally think Mercedes are better set-up for the race, if anything (strictly looking at tire allocation).