Sebastian Vettel won his easiest race of the year, leading the Canadian Grand Prix from start to finish. The German didn't put a foot wrong and kept Bottas at bay, who finished second. Max Verstappen completed the podium in third place after what essentially was a surprisingly dull race.
Well, they are the 2 perfect drivers ready to attack and take risks.
Half a second? I'm not an expert, but I doubt an engine loses about 30 hp over the course of 6 races? Mercedes had to fight in a few races, but put it in cruise control in at least two races.Wynters wrote: ↑09 Jun 2018, 22:47New engine should be at least 1/10th faster than the Australia performance of the initial version (which even in Baku could outdrag a Mercedes getting an extra tow). The Mercedes engine has 6 races under its belt, including those where it was turned up several times to clear traffic and chase leaders so... end of life engine vs cutting edge iteration of a better engine? Half a second?LM10 wrote: ↑09 Jun 2018, 22:12Just curious: How big should have been the gap between Ferrari with the updated engine (gain of just about 10 hp) and Mercedes for you not to talk like you do right now? Vettel told that he in fact had a mistake in his last run which cost him time. He told he should have been faster.
Let's say 2 tenths difference. Would this have been enough in your opinion to not tell that Ferrari was down on power?
You'd hope it'd be that much, given all the money spent on PU development and the amount of complaints about this being an engine formula of the past few years.
He'll have to bounce back tomorrow.nevill3 wrote: ↑09 Jun 2018, 23:09Maybe Hamilton has his car setup for the extra weight he will be carrying in the race, and that was why he constantly locked his left front wheel in the heavy braking. But I think he was just having one of his off days/weekends and will have to bounce back at the next race. What is the pitstop time here? Is the undercut a possibilty?
In one of my previous posts I mentioned that it's not right to argue that Hamilton automatically would have been faster just because he normally is. It could have very well been that Bottas unleashed the whole potential of the car.Wynters wrote: ↑09 Jun 2018, 22:47
I'd also be careful arguing that 'really, Ferrari should've been even faster because Vettel said so'. What's the time difference between Bottas and Hamilton usually? If Hamilton had been 'on it' today, what would Merc's maximum pace have been? Faster than Bottas? How much by? A tenth? Two? Makes him faster than Ferrari...with an exhausted engine.
I think some people are blowing the 'old engine' deficit out of proportions. It is an Engine built my Mercedes, not a Tyre made by Pirelli that will just fall off the cliff after certain amount of usage. Yes, the old engine is slower, but not as much as some are suggesting here. Also, with everyone praising the power of Merc engine, why is no body considering their reliability? Maybe the have got the reliability so high that they can do 7 races or maybe 8 races with normal power and this extra race is not hurting them at all?Wynters wrote: ↑09 Jun 2018, 22:47New engine should be at least 1/10th faster than the Australia performance of the initial version (which even in Baku could outdrag a Mercedes getting an extra tow). The Mercedes engine has 6 races under its belt, including those where it was turned up several times to clear traffic and chase leaders so... end of life engine vs cutting edge iteration of a better engine? Half a second?LM10 wrote: ↑09 Jun 2018, 22:12Just curious: How big should have been the gap between Ferrari with the updated engine (gain of just about 10 hp) and Mercedes for you not to talk like you do right now? Vettel told that he in fact had a mistake in his last run which cost him time. He told he should have been faster.
Let's say 2 tenths difference. Would this have been enough in your opinion to not tell that Ferrari was down on power?
You'd hope it'd be that much, given all the money spent on PU development and the amount of complaints about this being an engine formula of the past few years.
I'd also be careful arguing that 'really, Ferrari should've been even faster because Vettel said so'. What's the time difference between Bottas and Hamilton usually? If Hamilton had been 'on it' today, what would Merc's maximum pace have been? Faster than Bottas? How much by? A tenth? Two? Makes him faster than Ferrari...with an exhausted engine.
Let's break this down.LM10 wrote: ↑09 Jun 2018, 23:04Half a second? I'm not an expert, but I doubt an engine loses about 30 hp over the course of 6 races? Mercedes had to fight in a few races, but put it in cruise control in at least two races.
It was told that Ferrari's suspected ERS trick would give them 20 hp which would be equal to 0.3 seconds (in Baku). Let's say they don't have this gain anymore and considering their engine update was worth 10 hp shouldn't they still have been behind Mercedes on a power sensitive track?
In his second run in Q3 Vettel was 1 tenth faster than in his first run after S1 and S2, but made a mistake in S3 and therefore almost didn't improve. If it was not for the mistake, he should have been faster than Bottas by 2 tenths.
