2018 Austrian Grand Prix, Spielberg, 29 June - 1 July

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iotar__
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F1NAC wrote:
30 Jun 2018, 19:39
Damn it FIA go to hell. At least be consistent FFS.
Haven't watched it so/but:
- What would be consistent, Vettel (and some other teams/drivers) getting away with murder all the time?

- How to lose a championship by S. Vettel chapter 15. Let's see if Ferrari are commited to losing everything and add Leclerc (aka slighly better version of "Vehrlein is the only option for Mercedes" (Brundle)).
- Grosjean quicker than Ricciardo-Red Bull. Give the man a better car.
- No special tyres and Mercedes is clearly ahead, RB far behind and Haas fourth. Hypersofts are the real special tyres.

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JonoNic wrote:
30 Jun 2018, 19:56
Bill_Kar wrote:
Shrieker wrote:
30 Jun 2018, 19:43
I predict those nineteen thousands (20 rather) are gonna prove costly for ham tomorrow. Dirty side, and Ves is right behind him :?
Comforting fact that verstappen has the same tyres. If he had a grip advantage that would be game on.
The 2 Mercs will try to box in Verstappen at the start like they did Vettel last week. Maybe Verstappen then makes the same mistake as Vettel. All part of the race...
Is that boxing a thing now? Like when Schumacher famously cut across the track at the starts?
I thought It wasn't on the cards, that it just happened in France.

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JonoNic
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It's just the benefit of the Mercs starting 1 - 2. So all fair play. Vettel will either be conservative or over the top at the start. I would like to see how Verstappen handles a similar situation as what Vettel had last week.
Always find the gap then use it.

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Bill_Kar wrote:
30 Jun 2018, 18:58
It's pretty dangerous just cruising in the racing line - it's something that has to be stopped.
I don't find it particularly harsh but it does rob the show for tomorrow.
I find it harsh just because 2 races ago in Q2 none of the 3 drivers that were in the Vettel's way on the straight before chicane were even summoned to stewards. 2:58 in the video bellow

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JonoNic wrote:
30 Jun 2018, 20:06
It's just the benefit of the Mercs starting 1 - 2. So all fair play. Vettel will either be conservative or over the top at the start. I would like to see how Verstappen handles a similar situation as what Vettel had last week.
That would be Kimmi that finds himself in a similar situation as Vettel was in. Verstappen starts 4th. I'm much more comfortable with Kimi keeping his nose clean at the start than I would be with Vettel. Although I think this race Vettel makes sure to stay clean because the worst he'll finish is 4th.

Bottas FTW tomorrow.
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I guess in Montreal it played a part that Vettel was not on a qualifying lap anyway though (not one that he planed to finish at speed at least)

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search wrote:
30 Jun 2018, 20:25
I guess in Montreal it played a part that Vettel was not on a qualifying lap anyway though (not one that he planed to finish at speed at least)
No, he was on a quali lap till he reached those cars in the back straight.

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gg_ss wrote:
30 Jun 2018, 19:18
Wass85 wrote:
30 Jun 2018, 17:59
Hamilton slightly past it or Bottas one of the quickest ever? Either way Hamilton isn't deserving of the big bucks in his new contract going by his performance this season. There's several drivers on the grid that could do just as good as a job if not better IMO.
Are you serious? did you completely forget what happened last race or may be you just hate him because he beats your favorite driver most race weekends.

Yes i remember, Hamilton barely outqualified Bottas???????

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iotar__ wrote:
30 Jun 2018, 20:00
F1NAC wrote:
30 Jun 2018, 19:39
Damn it FIA go to hell. At least be consistent FFS.
Haven't watched it so/but:
- What would be consistent, Vettel (and some other teams/drivers) getting away with murder all the time?
Oh come on. Its BS. With what was he getting away?

They didn't bother to penalize Hulk in Canada and company... but yeah vettel all the way. He did f*** up Sainz but at least then be consistent and apply to everyone

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Sky reported that Alonso qualified in front of Vandoorne for the 14th time in a row, brutal stuff.

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Godius wrote:
30 Jun 2018, 20:40
Sky reported that Alonso qualified in front of Vandoorne for the 14th time in a row, brutal stuff.
He usually gets the better stuff of the car, Vandoorne gives Alonso a free tow each race but yeah Vandoorne needs to improve but he is just calm. Alonso as a teammate and having such a dominating character kills wussies. Let us show Alonso next to Hamilton or Max and i'm sure he won't get away with it and simply lose like he did before against Hamilton :D

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Vandoorne seems content, like he has already been promised a ride next year.

I think 95% of the grid would be within 2 tenths in identical cars/setup.

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LionKing wrote:
30 Jun 2018, 20:31
search wrote:
30 Jun 2018, 20:25
I guess in Montreal it played a part that Vettel was not on a qualifying lap anyway though (not one that he planed to finish at speed at least)
No, he was on a quali lap till he reached those cars in the back straight.
The thing there was that both cars yielded as they should, but they did so at either side of the road, leaving Vet with a slow moving chicane. Difficult to appoint blame there.

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I predict final positions will be:

1. Bottas
2. Lewis
3. Vettel
4. Max
5. Ricciardo
6. Kimi
7. Sainz
8. Ocon
9. Magnussen
10. Hulkenberg
epo wrote:
30 Jun 2018, 20:50
Godius wrote:
30 Jun 2018, 20:40
Sky reported that Alonso qualified in front of Vandoorne for the 14th time in a row, brutal stuff.
He usually gets the better stuff of the car, Vandoorne gives Alonso a free tow each race but yeah Vandoorne needs to improve but he is just calm. Alonso as a teammate and having such a dominating character kills wussies. Let us show Alonso next to Hamilton or Max and i'm sure he won't get away with it and simply lose like he did before against Hamilton :D
Heheh! Alonso has already been shown to Lewis (in Lewis rookie year no less). Result? Alonso left McLaren under much the same cloud as Vettel did when he left Red Bull after being shown to Ricciardo.
So, lets show Alonso to Ricciardo, then to Max, after that Leclerc. We could see a very humble "six tenths" after that.

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Zynerji
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I think we're going to see another Spain2016 between the Merc drivers...

Hamilton wants to win with Seb starting in 6th to maximize the point spread, and Bottas wants to win just to get his lost points back.