2018 Hungarian Grand Prix - Hungaroring, 27-29 July

[dfegan358]

Think it is a dry race.

Is a one stopper the expected strategy today?
Ultra soft then soft?
Ferrari will be hoping Mercedes chew through the ultrasofts very quickly in first stint. Might give them an opportunity

[Godius]

pirelli twitter:

Quickest strategy for 70-lap #HungarianGP (in hot and dry conditions) is a one-stopper. Start on ultrasoft for 22 laps, then medium to the end. Nearly as quick: start on soft for 27 laps and then medium to the end. Alternatively, ultrasoft for 22 laps then soft to end (1/2)

A two-stopper (with higher ultrasoft degradation) could work as follows: two stints of 16 laps on ultrasoft, followed by a final stint on soft to the end. The pit stop window for ultrasoft is from laps 18-26 (assuming similar conditions to FP2 on Friday) #HungarianGP (2/2)

[Edax]

- FIA cheating and Verstappen getting away without penalties, what else is new? I bet Ross "1+1=1" Brawn approves.

- This qualifying showed that "only inferior engine prevents Red Bull from winning everything". In the real world wet conditions media based genius put them at solid seventh. One can only hope it prevents "we prefer rain" BS next time.

no comment about FIA penalty policy... everything has been said

but it is quite short sighted to start bashing RB, you don't know the amount of compromises that engine makes the design team to implement in the car, I think Merc and Ferrari have much more options available in their setups, but there is only "one way" for the RBs design to work with that engine
I suspect they need to run a stiff suspension in order for their "skinny" (know this is high downforce track, just keep the trend of previous races in mind) aero to work, which in a such a wet track means little mechanical grip - which means the car is like on ice mostly, gives no confidence to the driver, extremely difficult to drive - which the result showed yesterday
and this is not so apparent in the dry, where the car does work a lot better than any other Renault powered car, so bashing the RB for coming up with poor design is the wrong thing to take away from this Q

They couldn’t get the wets to switch on hence no grip.

If you seen the F2 race yesterday, you could see the difference that setup makes. Lando Norris was 2 second faster than anyone on the full wets. But when he switched to softs he incinerated them in six laps. Nyck de Vries was the exact opposite. Of course it is not only tires, both gave a masterclass in wet driving, but it was a big factor.

It could well be that some teams sacrifised tyre longevity for grid position and some didn’t. If it is hot and dry, it would not surprise me if some teams run into problems and can’t get a one stop to work while others can.

[Morteza]

[Juzh]

Some laps from fp3



Renault engine is a complete joke at this point.

[MtthsMlw]

Stroll will start from the pit lane.

[TNTHead]

I am wondering whether someone did quali on a wet setup which sacrifises race in the dry. Does anybody know the possible differences in car setups between wet and dry at this track?

[Just_a_fan]

I expect Ferrari's excellent launch system to catapult Kimi in to first and Vettel in to second by turn 1. Then it'll be a fight for third between the Mercedes. Whether Vettel tries to get greedy in to Turn 1 and biffs Kimi will be interesting to see.

I think the result will be:
1. Vettel
2. Kimi
3. Bottas
4. Hamilton

[JonoNic]

I expect Ferrari's excellent launch system to catapult Kimi in to first and Vettel in to second by turn 1. Then it'll be a fight for third between the Mercedes. Whether Vettel tries to get greedy in to Turn 1 and biffs Kimi will be interesting to see.

I think the result will be:
1. Vettel
2. Kimi
3. Bottas
4. Hamilton

Is it dry today? This is an interesting prediction as there surely be team orders for both Ferrari and Mercedes

[giantfan10]

I am wondering whether someone did quali on a wet setup which sacrifises race in the dry. Does anybody know the possible differences in car setups between wet and dry at this track?

Mercedes switches on the wets better than any of the other top 2 teams and subsequently "switches on" the ultrasoft and chews through them.The soft is the perfect tire for their car because it can handle the extra energy the Mercedes puts into it.
i suspect its a result of suspension design.
This has been in the Mercedes car DNA since 2012.....
will be interesting to see how long the ultrasofts last on the mercedes if they choose to start on that tire.
With their suspect starts i doubt they will risk the soft tire for stint 1....This will be a very very interesting race with the 2 faster teams on this track starting behind Mercedes.

[Phil]

I actually think Ferrari might be cheeky. Mercedes will think they need to start on the US, until Ferrari doesnt and starts on softs. Then Mercedes will have to pit early, possibly too early and Ferrari will try the overcut. That would be cunning. I think that might work more than trying to get ahead before T1 with two Mercedes there.

[Fulcrum]

Considering the distance to turn 1, and the Ferrari starting sequence being so good recently, one would imagine there will be 4 cars very close together into the first corner. The risk of an accident seems high.

[Restomaniac]

Considering the distance to turn 1, and the Ferrari starting sequence being so good recently, one would imagine there will be 4 cars very close together into the first corner. The risk of an accident seems high.

I think we may see the Mercedes box in again.

[Fulcrum]

Considering the distance to turn 1, and the Ferrari starting sequence being so good recently, one would imagine there will be 4 cars very close together into the first corner. The risk of an accident seems high.

I think we may see the Mercedes box in again.

I think we may see (and hear) Toto blessing the rains in Africa (i.e. caterwauling), if a Ferrari touches a Mercedes.

[Just_a_fan]

I expect Ferrari's excellent launch system to catapult Kimi in to first and Vettel in to second by turn 1. Then it'll be a fight for third between the Mercedes. Whether Vettel tries to get greedy in to Turn 1 and biffs Kimi will be interesting to see.

I think the result will be:
1. Vettel
2. Kimi
3. Bottas
4. Hamilton

Is it dry today? This is an interesting prediction as there surely be team orders for both Ferrari and Mercedes

If Bottas is ahead after the pit stop, I expect Mercedes to leave them in that order. We might see something like last year where one is released to chase, on the understanding that if they're unsuccessful they'll revert places - like last year. No idea what Ferrari will do but I expect Kimi won't be winning unless he is actually able to pull away from Vettel.