Lewis Hamilton controlled the Hungarian Grand Prix from start to finish, enjoying the protection of his team mate from a charging Ferrari duo. Bottas eventually failed to keep the Ferrrari duo behind on ageing tyres, allowing Vettel and Raikkonen to complete the podium.
it was vettels fault! no one all race cut into the apex like he did, even ricciardo who passed a few cars in turn two took a much wider line. vettel was ahead going into the turn and if he stayed outside he would've been able to pull away with the stickier rubber. he's lucky he didn't get a puncture.
people look at all the drivers that overtook another car on turn 2 during the race. did they take the line that vettel did and closed the door on bottas that he didn't have to cause bottas was clearly struggling for grip? every single driver aside from vettel made the pass on the outside without cutting the apex short.
what was his excuse last year? the guy doesn't have good spatial awareness.Sierra117 wrote: ↑29 Jul 2018, 17:15It's been mentioned a few times that those halo-mounted mirrors don't have good visibility. If that's why Vettel cannot see what's behind him quickly or naturally enough then they need to do something about that.TAG wrote: ↑29 Jul 2018, 17:10What a wonderful win for Mercedes, with Ferrari having the quickest car and a supremely hot track temperature that's been Mercedes' albatross, they still manage to produce a commanding win. I can't even begin to comprehend how it all went wrong for them today.
Bottas driver of the day IMO. Incredible how time and time again Vettel simply has no perception of anything behind his helmet when the desperation sets in.
You are right but no one of the others was so far in front.NYGIANTS wrote: ↑29 Jul 2018, 21:03people look at all the drivers that overtook another car on turn 2 during the race. did they take the line that vettel did and closed the door on bottas that he didn't have to cause bottas was clearly struggling for grip? every single driver aside from vettel made the pass on the outside without cutting the apex short.
nope there's a difference when your other driver is 70pts adrift, there's also a difference when your playing rear gunner in the first race of the season.Restomaniac wrote: ↑29 Jul 2018, 17:31I’m pointing out the double standards on here.stuartpengs wrote: ↑29 Jul 2018, 17:27Restomaniac wrote: ↑29 Jul 2018, 16:59I hate team orders/manipulation.
Ferrari should have let a clearly quicker Raikkonen have a pop at Bottas too.Those two statements are completely contrary.
Another good race for Merc and HAM, points taken and lead increased where, truth be told, very few were expecting it. Track position is king here, I'm suprised there were so many varied predictions before the race. If you get away in the lead, have a clean stop, you're always in the box seat. Irrespective of Merc's form on hot hot tracks the delta to pass was just too much so they could run the car slower and still maintain the lead. Once HAM got out in the lead the win was in the bag, regardless of VET on US.
Looking forward to two stellar tracks next!
My view is the first sentence. Some on here however are happy to jump on 1 team but ignore it when their team do it.
Isn't that approved Max Verstapen line?NYGIANTS wrote: ↑29 Jul 2018, 20:58it was vettels fault! no one all race cut into the apex like he did, even ricciardo who passed a few cars in turn two took a much wider line. vettel was ahead going into the turn and if he stayed outside he would've been able to pull away with the stickier rubber. he's lucky he didn't get a puncture.
What is your opinion on France T1 incident?
Pretty much this. Vettel could still have held on to his move without cutting Bottas's face off. More blame on Vettel than on Valtteri for thst one. For the Ric incident Valtteri at fault for sure.
Well, if that holds true, OK. But there is a slight chance that they may have done the pit stop; maybe they were just informed that VSC ends so you wouldn't want to be caught in the pits surely.falonso81 wrote: ↑29 Jul 2018, 19:28I remember that and i believe Merc did it again this year or 2017. Don't know if anything changed.
I think they can get away with it with the excuse that they intended to make a pit stop and changed their mind. Also on Sky they noticed that the mechanics were holding different type tyres which shows it was a fake pit stop.
A) the tangle with vettel into turn 2 is vettels fault for closing the door when he didn't have to. every driver who passed another car all race didn't take the line that vettel did and surprised bottas. vettel had the tire advantage as bottas was struggling for rear end grip, vettel was ahead going into turn 2 and if he stayed under the passing line he would've out dragged bottas on exit.ismail1991 wrote: ↑29 Jul 2018, 18:34As a mercedes fan, I don't think Valteri deserves to drive a Mercedes. First of all, he should have known that he wouldn't make the turn from the inside without touching Vettel, even if he didn't touch vettel, he would not make the corner and Kimi would pass him too. Secondly way worse is that he tried to defend to Ricciardo with a broken front wing and late braking and understeering into him. His excuse at the end of the race "I just understeerd into him , my wing was broken." Then why did you brake that late, you knew that you can't take the corner. I can't believe.
just rewatch the other passes during the race and you'll see the difference.marvin78 wrote: ↑29 Jul 2018, 21:14I don't see that. But perhaps is my look too neutral?
