Scuderia Ferrari SF71H

[DVB]

Nono, they still changed some details.

https://i.imgur.com/1EBWWXJ.jpg

First vane is mounted on nose and nose is off on that picture.

Btw, it's kinda strange Ferrari brought this new concept of sidepods since last year but doesn't seem to do many upgrades around it thru the year. The deflectors on the side, deflectors on the sidepod which extend it, always seem to stay the same thru the year. Any idea why?

[djos]

Is it used during the start?
Yeah seems u don't need too much pressure for pressing it, oddly the button looks like a hard press button from its look.

But why do they need an extra button? Manual deployment of energy? (I don't know if it is even allowed)

They release it at soon as the lights turn out at the start.

So it could be a control for the electric rear brake then?

[MoP]

[Vanja #66]

Btw, it's kinda strange Ferrari brought this new concept of sidepods since last year but doesn't seem to do many upgrades around it thru the year. The deflectors on the side, deflectors on the sidepod which extend it, always seem to stay the same thru the year. Any idea why?

Well when you look at how teams generally develop this area, you notice they don't usually change it too oftrn, since it's very important for overall flow structures. You may see one or two teams doing one (small) change of side pod intake design per year, mostly because its either a massive gain or the, made a massive screw up in thr beggining. Mercedes did it in Austria this year for a massive gain for the rest of the year.

On Ferrari, this area seems particularly well developed with clear design goals very visible. Being such, improving it might hurt some of those original goals and/or hurt further development potential for some other areas.

What I'm very intersted in, is why barge board updates are so scarce. There are two possibilities - either they are very close to development potential (hardly) or they are reluctant to introduce new parts that would improve downforce potential but at the great cost of drag. In my view, Red Bull has too many surfaces in this area causing substantial amount of drag for downforce they gain. Red Bull had 3-4 updates in this area since roll-out, while Mercedes and Ferrari each had only one.

Also, it's good to remember that teams learned about 2019 changes very early this season, so they probably started splitting resources between 2018 and 2019 cars at that time. This would hinder any development that doesn't benefit 2018 as much as other areas do (since 2019 cars will be so different, there aren't many parts you can translate to them) and you still have to work on low-drag configuration for Spa and Monza.

[henry]

Is it used during the start?
Yeah seems u don't need too much pressure for pressing it, oddly the button looks like a hard press button from its look.

But why do they need an extra button? Manual deployment of energy? (I don't know if it is even allowed)

They release it at soon as the lights turn out at the start.

So it could be a control for the electric rear brake then?

That seems a reasonable suggestion.

What we need next is to see when it gets pressed.

[zioture]

[zioture]

Comparison Setup Mercedes Ferrari Monza

[Big Tea]

They release it at soon as the lights turn out at the start.

So it could be a control for the electric rear brake then?

That seems a reasonable suggestion.

What we need next is to see when it gets pressed.

Hmm. Wonder if there is a way to control just one side? Maybe just using the tolerance in the system, nothing illegal

[wunderkind]

There are talks that the Ferrari's floor is working so well that it allows the car to run less wing than the Mercedes. Of course, the Ferrari PU is now on the same level as Mercedes, if not better.

[Vanja #66]

There are talks that the Ferrari's floor is working so well that it allows the car to run less wing than the Mercedes. Of course, the Ferrari PU is now on the same level as Mercedes, if not better.

All you need to look at is this excellent comparison (pay attention to front wing as well):

Comparison Setup Mercedes Ferrari Monza

And even with this much wing level, Hamilton was faster in speed trap than Ferrari and top speed in Monza is all about more power. If Spa wasn't enough, Monza confirms that SF71-H has better downforce to drag ratio than W09, something that was discussed here since cars were presented in February. In Lesmos, Ferrari wasn't lagging behind Mercedes in corner speed and these still aren't speeds were drag is starting to hinder acceleration trough corner, so more downforce for slightly more drag is acceptable there.

Ferrari PU seems to be better on acceleration, since they look like using electric power for longer in early acceleration from corner. However, there are strong arguments pointing towards Mercedes peak power supremacy, which is constant since 2014. And this fact is an astonishing achievement for Mercedes' amazing PU department.

[FLuidd]

There are talks that the Ferrari's floor is working so well that it allows the car to run less wing than the Mercedes. Of course, the Ferrari PU is now on the same level as Mercedes, if not better.

All you need to look at is this excellent comparison (pay attention to front wing as well):

http://www.newsf1.it/wp-content/uploads ... ricopg.jpg

Comparison Setup Mercedes Ferrari Monza

And even with this much wing level, Hamilton was faster in speed trap than Ferrari and top speed in Monza is all about more power. If Spa wasn't enough, Monza confirms that SF71-H has better downforce to drag ratio than W09, something that was discussed here since cars were presented in February. In Lesmos, Ferrari wasn't lagging behind Mercedes in corner speed and these still aren't speeds were drag is starting to hinder acceleration trough corner, so more downforce for slightly more drag is acceptable there.

Ferrari PU seems to be better on acceleration, since they look like using electric power for longer in early acceleration from corner. However, there are strong arguments pointing towards Mercedes peak power supremacy, which is constant since 2014. And this fact is an astonishing achievement for Mercedes' amazing PU department.

Do you think the shape of the front wing has anything to do with Ferrari's better drag than Mercedes?

[Vanja #66]

Do you think the shape of the front wing has anything to do with Ferrari's better drag than Mercedes?

Yes, but that shape looks to be a consequence of raising side pod inlets (reducing front wing upwash, so top intake is usable), not an answer to lowering drag.

[MtthsMlw]

[F1NAC]

https://i.redditmedia.com/R2MVauc_Mt_tW ... db026e1f0e

Still he had good pace with this kind of damage.

[LM10]

Definitely, he still managed it very well with this kind of damage.

So, next one is Singapore and that’s the next possibility for Ferrari to bring the new wastegate pipe layout. Do you guys think they’re gonna go for it?
It was just tested once. Maybe they weren’t happy enough.