2018 Brazilian Grand Prix - Interlagos, 9-11 November

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siskue2005 wrote:
10 Nov 2018, 20:56
LM10 wrote:
10 Nov 2018, 20:54
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10 Nov 2018, 20:45


Srtokin was not on a hot lab.. you guys know that right?
So just because a driver is not on his hot lap you're allowed to rapidly steer into his way when he's approaching with significantly higher velocity on the ideal line? If yes, this rule needs to be checked.
Oh so now Lewis steered deliberately into sirotkin's path? why was sirotkin running so fast on his out lap? he was trying to get ahead of Lewis hence the speed differential and Lewis only saw him last minute hence the incident........ and neither driver lost any time on that particular lap
well, Sirotkin had to go on the grass, so this is very likely to have compromised his chances to set a good qualifying lap afterwards. And this was his only set of new tires left. So technically, I would say Hamilton's move did destroy Sirotkin's qualifying.

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https://twitter.com/wbuxtonofficial/sta ... 2697953283
Why can't you hear it on the onboard?

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I'm pretty pro-Hamilton, but I think he should get a penalty or some points on his licence for that move. It's not an issue of whether he compromised Sirotkin or not; the issue is of safety, he could have caused a pretty hefty accident. Maybe it was his engineer's fault for not alerting him sooner, but in any case the driver always takes the penalty for the engineer's failure.

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siskue2005 wrote:
10 Nov 2018, 20:56
LM10 wrote:
10 Nov 2018, 20:54
foxmulder_ms wrote:
10 Nov 2018, 20:45


Srtokin was not on a hot lab.. you guys know that right?
So just because a driver is not on his hot lap you're allowed to rapidly steer into his way when he's approaching with significantly higher velocity on the ideal line? If yes, this rule needs to be checked.
Oh so now Lewis steered deliberately into sirotkin's path? why was sirotkin running so fast on his out lap? he was trying to get ahead of Lewis hence the speed differential and Lewis only saw him last minute hence the incident........ and neither driver lost any time on that particular lap
No he didn't deliberately steer into Sirotkin. That's the second time today you either misunderstood or accused me of saying something I actually didn't.
Sirotkin being on a hot lap or not doesn't change the fact that he was approaching with high speed. Whether he was doing that to overtake Hamilton or it simply was his warm-up procedure doesn't matter either. Hamilton might have not destroyed his hot lap, but he surely compromised Sirotkin's warm-up lap by forcing him onto the grass.

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siskue2005 wrote:
10 Nov 2018, 20:53
GrandAxe wrote:
10 Nov 2018, 20:48
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10 Nov 2018, 20:35


the cars need to be stationary to get correct weight, cannot measure accurately something which is moving
There's Weigh in Motion systems that are quick and accurate, the FIA just chose to do things in the most clonky and obtrusive manner.
do u know the sensitivity and specificity of these systems? yup pretty poor i guess .... so more accurate and reliable system should be used
They are very accurate actually.

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As far as I can see from the video, the steward is signalling to cut the engine prior to being pushed onto the scales, Vettel drove onto the scales then cut his engine. It then looked as though Vettel signaled to someone to not push him off the scales and restarted his engine and drove off.
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nevill3 wrote:
10 Nov 2018, 21:06
As far as I can see from the video, the steward is signalling to cut the engine prior to being pushed onto the scales, Vettel drove onto the scales then cut his engine. It then looked as though Vettel signaled to someone to not push him off the scales and restarted his engine and drove off.
True. If I understood correctly he was told by his engineer to start the engine again. What a mess.

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I know there is much more interesting gossip going on right now, but does someone know what tires the top 6 will start on?

I know Ferrari is starting on Softs, but what about Merc and Verstappen?

Thanks in advance.

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zibby43 wrote:
10 Nov 2018, 21:12
I know there is much more interesting gossip going on right now, but does someone know what tires the top 6 started on?

I know Ferrari is starting on Softs, but what about Merc and Verstappen?

Thanks in advance.
Only Ferrari on Softs, the rest on SS.

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search wrote:
10 Nov 2018, 20:59
siskue2005 wrote:
10 Nov 2018, 20:56
LM10 wrote:
10 Nov 2018, 20:54


So just because a driver is not on his hot lap you're allowed to rapidly steer into his way when he's approaching with significantly higher velocity on the ideal line? If yes, this rule needs to be checked.
Oh so now Lewis steered deliberately into sirotkin's path? why was sirotkin running so fast on his out lap? he was trying to get ahead of Lewis hence the speed differential and Lewis only saw him last minute hence the incident........ and neither driver lost any time on that particular lap
well, Sirotkin had to go on the grass, so this is very likely to have compromised his chances to set a good qualifying lap afterwards. And this was his only set of new tires left. So technically, I would say Hamilton's move did destroy Sirotkin's qualifying.
So how about Lewis losing his run to his own qualy lap? didnt he also had to jump out of the way for a person who was not even on a qualy lap and also he had to overtake Sirotkin on the next lap to do his one and only qualy lap in Q2... so both got compromised in their next run.

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zibby43 wrote:
10 Nov 2018, 21:12
I know there is much more interesting gossip going on right now, but does someone know what tires the top 6 will start on?

I know Ferrari is starting on Softs, but what about Merc and Verstappen?

Thanks in advance.
all on SS. Verstappen and Ricciardo came close, but couldn't improve

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LM10 wrote:
10 Nov 2018, 21:03
siskue2005 wrote:
10 Nov 2018, 20:56
LM10 wrote:
10 Nov 2018, 20:54


So just because a driver is not on his hot lap you're allowed to rapidly steer into his way when he's approaching with significantly higher velocity on the ideal line? If yes, this rule needs to be checked.
Oh so now Lewis steered deliberately into sirotkin's path? why was sirotkin running so fast on his out lap? he was trying to get ahead of Lewis hence the speed differential and Lewis only saw him last minute hence the incident........ and neither driver lost any time on that particular lap
No he didn't deliberately steer into Sirotkin. That's the second time today you either misunderstood or accused me of saying something I actually didn't.
Sirotkin being on a hot lap or not doesn't change the fact that he was approaching with high speed. Whether he was doing that to overtake Hamilton or it simply was his warm-up procedure doesn't matter either. Hamilton might have not destroyed his hot lap, but he surely compromised Sirotkin's warm-up lap by forcing him onto the grass.
I think the other issue is there was a blue flag for HAM to let him past, out lap or not, unless that blue flag was for someone behind both of them.

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LM10 wrote:
10 Nov 2018, 21:03
siskue2005 wrote:
10 Nov 2018, 20:56
LM10 wrote:
10 Nov 2018, 20:54


So just because a driver is not on his hot lap you're allowed to rapidly steer into his way when he's approaching with significantly higher velocity on the ideal line? If yes, this rule needs to be checked.
Oh so now Lewis steered deliberately into sirotkin's path? why was sirotkin running so fast on his out lap? he was trying to get ahead of Lewis hence the speed differential and Lewis only saw him last minute hence the incident........ and neither driver lost any time on that particular lap
No he didn't deliberately steer into Sirotkin. That's the second time today you either misunderstood or accused me of saying something I actually didn't.
Sirotkin being on a hot lap or not doesn't change the fact that he was approaching with high speed. Whether he was doing that to overtake Hamilton or it simply was his warm-up procedure doesn't matter either. Hamilton might have not destroyed his hot lap, but he surely compromised Sirotkin's warm-up lap by forcing him onto the grass.
so what about Sirotkin going faster than required and ruining Lewis' warm up procedure and hence ruining Lewis' hot lap too?

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MtthsMlw wrote:
10 Nov 2018, 21:02
https://twitter.com/wbuxtonofficial/sta ... 2697953283
Why can't you hear it on the onboard?
this guy is hamiltons boyfriend, always has been

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MtthsMlw wrote:
10 Nov 2018, 21:13
zibby43 wrote:
10 Nov 2018, 21:12
I know there is much more interesting gossip going on right now, but does someone know what tires the top 6 started on?

I know Ferrari is starting on Softs, but what about Merc and Verstappen?

Thanks in advance.
Only Ferrari on Softs, the rest on SS.
Thank you sir! With the blistering problems Ferrari had on the SS, that's probably a wise decision for them.