Phil wrote: ↑26 Feb 2019, 15:55
Schuttelberg wrote: ↑26 Feb 2019, 15:15
Waiting for Toto to tell us how Alfa Romeo are a genuine threat this year for the titles!
I honestly can't relate to
your dislike for the Mercedes team or Toto. Maybe I'm looking at this too far from the opposite camp being a Mercedes supporter and all, but I find their communication to the press/fans spot on and way better than most teams. Toto as well is nothing but professional, yet evidently very vested into the performance of his own team. Despite leading one of the most successful teams in F1 history, he is doing everything he should be in order to keep them as motivated and successful. If I were a fan of any other team, I'd be envious of not having him. I may not have thought that when Brawn was let go by end of 2013, but I very much rate Toto as one of the pillars to the modern success of the Mercedes AMG team.
And I'd much rather have him downplay his own team as favorites than come out playing the arrogance card.
Speaking of which; I am also a very big fan of RedBull as a team and their communication. Not so much Helmut Marko (don't care much for him), but I do like Christian Horner. For what it's worth, I also liked Arrivabene/Ferrari, except for the fact that they pretty much refuse to talk to the media most of the time, which IMO is very counter-productive.
In my opinion, your like for him basically stems from the success he has achieved. I also have my likes, but I value my neutral stand a lot more than allowing my emotions to dictate alternate reality to me. You know I'm a Vettel fan out and out and I have no problems saying Hamilton is perhaps the better driver overall so far and definitely the previous two years. I also am just a normal fan of the sport so disliking/hating the Mercedes 'team' in my book would be childish and just a lame reason to hold Vettel/Ferrari on higher ground. Having watched the sport for decades, I fully understand now the work that a team puts in for a driver to be successful and so I have utmost respect for all the teams. Not to mention, how they have to all make sacrifices to even stay afloat in the economic environment.
If you've followed my posts, I have a huge soft corner for Ferrari, McLaren and Williams. I generally allow my emotions to take over my posts when these three teams are 'insulted.' I use the word insulted and not criticised. Since 2014, I have seen a desperation in Toto Wolff to wear an underdog armour and then when his team obviously wins, he lets us know how his squad rose like a phoenix from the Ashes. He has continuously ran PR TIRADES about how even Williams could be a challenger and competition. Everyone on this board with an ounce of common sense knows about their troubles, so for me it almost seems like he's taking the mickey and that's not cool. The whole world knows Ferrari and Red Bull were not threats to Mercedes until 2018 unless Mercedes cocked up themselves and gave the other two a chance. Okay, it can be argued that in that period between 2014-17 there were 5 races perhaps where Mercedes was not dominant but you're talking about a 95% dominant period. The only time where he was genuinely under the pump was in 2018 and he well and truly behaved like a complete @rse. His star driver basically rescued him from further embarrassment. He's successful but the bricks of the wall were well and truly in place before his arrival. Having been a working bloke for a decade and a half I also know that taking over something that's working and maintaining excellence is difficult, but creating it is just another world altogether. You will find ten blokes that can maintain things but one in a hundred who can create that magic and for me that was well and truly Brawn. Hell, Lewis has himself said that he joined the team for him.
Lastly, Lewis and Seb are in the car and they have to manage expectations the most among fans through media. They both try to keep things calm inspite of dealing with the adrenaline of driving these beasts. They seem to be far more in control than Toto. I see Lewis humble, modest, keeping expectations in check but he doesn't make idiotic insinuations like Toro Rosso is in the title fight as is Red Bull. There's a difference in managing perceptions and keeping a low profile and being a complete prick.
"Sebastian there's very, you're a member of a very select few.. Stewart, Lauda, Piquet, Senna, Prost, Schumacher, Fangio.. VETTEL!"