Godius wrote:Sparky wrote: ↑02 Apr 2019, 00:59
foxmulder_ms wrote: ↑02 Apr 2019, 00:05
I disagree. DRS worked great in this race. I like it. Faster cars are not stuck.
Though the question was not if it worked, the question i tried to ask is how does it make sense cars get DRS to make up for a lost of downforce, while they already passed the car?
Essentialy what u are saying is as long as faster cars are not stuck, DRS did well?
I don't agree on this, and while this circuit might not be the best example, but we all (should) know it's not always the fastest car that wins. Unless we want to take the tire strategy element out of the race, a driver should be able to defend his position and he should not be compromised by a band-aid DRS giving any attacker an unfair advantage. DRS should imo be balanced as in just give the attacker an equal chance to overtake aswell as the defender equal chance to defend. With last weekends DRS once any car overtook another (late enough on the main straight that is), the action itself was often initialized yet just not completed, triggering the other DRS activation.
Now the DRS more powerfull as ever made it so no contender could recover from this overtake, as the other car had another advantage. Just a free boost, while the purpose was to give another chance for an overtake.
Though, if i'm overlooking something, i'm happy to hear.
I agree with what you stated and there is an other side effect of the second drs zone.
Due to the higher closings speed in the second drs zone, the defending driver without drs will always cover the inside of the corner. This can result in a dangerous situation like the Sainz / Verstappen collision.
Sainz arrived into the braking area in front of Verstappen but Sainz had to brake earlier than Verstappen to make the corner. Sainz then really thought that the job was done and didn’t realise or anticipate that Verstappen could brake later due to arriving into the corner at a lower speed.
The DRS is needed because of 2 fundamental problems with F1, one of them they are trying to fix... The other might not be an easy one to deal with, but both are based on the the effect of “Draft”...
For cars that have similar characteristics (horsepower, traction), the only way for the following car to make a pass is to use the draft, which is nothing more than a DRS in concept... You use the car in front to reduce the drag of the following car... The following car therefore requires “less power” to maintain the same speed as the leading the car and use the excess power to make a pass when it comes out of the draft.
1.- Following Closely: Since the F1 cars can’t follow closely due to how their aero works, they aren’t close enough to make use of such draft and make an overtake... Without DRS we wouldn’t have much passing (or any at all) in F1 today (unless of course the following car would have a huge performance differential, which is something we don’t want either)... The new regulations are trying to address this.
2.- Speed of the cars: For the draft to work, the following car would need to be behind the leading car for a “long period of time”... Unluckily, the current F1 cars are so fast / powerful, that the straights in the current circuits wouldn’t be long enough in a considerable amount of tracks for the draft to be successful (think Melbourne for example, where even with DRS, the following car can’t make the move because the straights aren’t long enough)... I don’t think that any of us really want an “slower” Formula 1... Part of the DNA of F1 is to have the fastest cars to go around a circuit... This part without a change to the tracks or reducing the power of the cars won’t be easy to achieve.
So, if what we want is to have more “on-track action” in F1, I’m afraid DRS will be around for a while.
In regards to the 2 DRS zones, the activation point for both is the same (if I’m not wrong, Melbourne is the same is in this regards, with the first 2 DRS zones are activated at the same location before the last turn... The idea is to allow the following car to use the first DRS zone to “get close” and the second one to make the move.
In regards to your comment about defending... If the leading car is passed on the first DRS zone and even though the car that made the pass have a “boost” on the second DRS zone... If the car that was passed can hang to the car in front, he would have the opportunity to take his position back in the next lap... That’s ok and in my opinion, there isn’t a problem with it.
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