2019 Spanish Grand Prix - Catalunya, May 10-12

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https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12474 ... t-mercedes

We will have a new power unit that we are introducing ahead of schedule, as the second specification was due to be brought to Canada," team boss Mattia Binotto said as he confirmed the two-race jump.

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F1Fan2018 wrote:
07 May 2019, 17:13
https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12474 ... t-mercedes

We will have a new power unit that we are introducing ahead of schedule, as the second specification was due to be brought to Canada," team boss Mattia Binotto said as he confirmed the two-race jump.
Well, if they're still behind Merc, we can call it a day

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F1Fan2018 wrote:
07 May 2019, 17:13
https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12474 ... t-mercedes

We will have a new power unit that we are introducing ahead of schedule, as the second specification was due to be brought to Canada," team boss Mattia Binotto said as he confirmed the two-race jump.
I am guessing their new chassis upgrade is bringing more drag than they would have liked and hence the need for more power to retain the current straight line speeds. Otherwise, it doesn't make sense to bring a PU upgrade so soon in the season for a circuit that is not really a full power circuit like Canada or Britain and then the next circuit on the calendar is Monaco!

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Great that they are so aggressive. If they are still behind by next two races, they can call it quits with this year and figure out what the hell happened so that it doesnt repeat next year.

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GPR -A wrote:
07 May 2019, 17:33
Otherwise, it doesn't make sense to bring a PU upgrade so soon in the season for a circuit that is not really a full power circuit like Canada or Britain and then the next circuit on the calendar is Monaco!
Actually they have no more time to stay with logic in their long term strategy. They are 73 points behind and without huge and immidiately boost they will be 88 more behind untill Canada...

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Unf wrote:
07 May 2019, 17:45
Actually they have no more time to stay with logic in their long term strategy. They are 73 points behind and without huge and immidiately boost they will be 88 more behind untill Canada...
All the races are of equal value, so it makes no sense to bring an upgrade this early. All this is going to do is limit them later in the season.
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dans79 wrote:
07 May 2019, 18:02
All the races are of equal value, so it makes no sense to bring an upgrade this early. All this is going to do is limit them later in the season.
What you saying is logical. I said that Ferrari can't think in logic way, casue they are simply not allowed right now. Such big compane, under tremendous demands from fans, media in Italy etc. They MUST win as early as possible. This is Ferrari's weaknes as well - they dont may, they must.

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They have obviously changed plans. Only time will tell if they made the right decisions.

I'm excited to see what everyone brings to this race for upgrades! Its like the second car reveal of the year time!

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Unf wrote:
07 May 2019, 20:03
What you saying is logical. I said that Ferrari can't think in logic way, casue they are simply not allowed right now. Such big compane, under tremendous demands from fans, media in Italy etc. They MUST win as early as possible. This is Ferrari's weaknes as well - they dont may, they must.
That's a bad way to run a team. I'm a Chicago cubs fan (108 years between championships), and I'm more familiar than most about how bad it can get when you let the fans dictate team decisions.
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dans79 wrote:
07 May 2019, 20:27
Unf wrote:
07 May 2019, 20:03
What you saying is logical. I said that Ferrari can't think in logic way, casue they are simply not allowed right now. Such big compane, under tremendous demands from fans, media in Italy etc. They MUST win as early as possible. This is Ferrari's weaknes as well - they dont may, they must.
That's a bad way to run a team. I'm a Chicago cubs fan (108 years between championships), and I'm more familiar than most about how bad it can get when you let the fans dictate team decisions.
They’ve obviously changed their plans and came to the conclusion this might be the better route. I very much doubt that media and fans made them rush a PU upgrade.

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LM10 wrote:
07 May 2019, 20:48
dans79 wrote:
07 May 2019, 20:27
Unf wrote:
07 May 2019, 20:03
What you saying is logical. I said that Ferrari can't think in logic way, casue they are simply not allowed right now. Such big compane, under tremendous demands from fans, media in Italy etc. They MUST win as early as possible. This is Ferrari's weaknes as well - they dont may, they must.
That's a bad way to run a team. I'm a Chicago cubs fan (108 years between championships), and I'm more familiar than most about how bad it can get when you let the fans dictate team decisions.
They’ve obviously changed their plans and came to the conclusion this might be the better route. I very much doubt that media and fans made them rush a PU upgrade.
They are definitely under pressure, as the Italian press has already been hostile this season.

They already beat the spec 2 Honda, and a PU upgrade isn't going to close the gap to Mercedes unless they magically came up with a lot more power or efficiency. I see no good reason to bring this upgrade now, unless they have reliability concerns about spec 1.
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F1Fan2018 wrote:
07 May 2019, 17:13
https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12474 ... t-mercedes

We will have a new power unit that we are introducing ahead of schedule, as the second specification was due to be brought to Canada," team boss Mattia Binotto said as he confirmed the two-race jump.
Can almost hear Toto in my ears.. :roll:
"Sebastian there's very, you're a member of a very select few.. Stewart, Lauda, Piquet, Senna, Prost, Schumacher, Fangio.. VETTEL!"

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LM10 wrote:
07 May 2019, 20:48
dans79 wrote:
07 May 2019, 20:27
Unf wrote:
07 May 2019, 20:03
What you saying is logical. I said that Ferrari can't think in logic way, casue they are simply not allowed right now. Such big compane, under tremendous demands from fans, media in Italy etc. They MUST win as early as possible. This is Ferrari's weaknes as well - they dont may, they must.
That's a bad way to run a team. I'm a Chicago cubs fan (108 years between championships), and I'm more familiar than most about how bad it can get when you let the fans dictate team decisions.
They’ve obviously changed their plans and came to the conclusion this might be the better route. I very much doubt that media and fans made them rush a PU upgrade.
I love how folks posting on a message board assume, in 10 seconds, that they have thought about and concluded a better course of action than Ferrari. Because, you know, there is no one in Maranello with intelligence spending much time thinking about these matters.

And no one within Ferrari exercises logical thinking because, you know, they are all fiery Italians with a Latin personality and always hyper excited and incapable of rational thought.

:lol:

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GPR -A wrote:
07 May 2019, 17:33
F1Fan2018 wrote:
07 May 2019, 17:13
https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12474 ... t-mercedes

We will have a new power unit that we are introducing ahead of schedule, as the second specification was due to be brought to Canada," team boss Mattia Binotto said as he confirmed the two-race jump.
I am guessing their new chassis upgrade is bringing more drag than they would have liked and hence the need for more power to retain the current straight line speeds. Otherwise, it doesn't make sense to bring a PU upgrade so soon in the season for a circuit that is not really a full power circuit like Canada or Britain and then the next circuit on the calendar is Monaco!
Maybe they'll use PU1 at Monaco and not this one

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Is the PU we’ll see from the reds the one they ran in testing minus the reliability issues they had in said test? I was under the impression that the PU so far has been some sort of halfway house solution.