IndyCar Series

[Maritimer]

This is really embarrassing!

https://apnews.com/a8653967a9714ac7a9a3ba576f712fff

"Zak Brown should not be digging around for steering wheels"

[roon]

"...should not be..." Well... A ship is only as good its captain, and this ship has been off course for some time.

[Maritimer]

"...should not be..." Well... A ship is only as good its captain, and this ship has been off course for some time.

Oh very much so, I just like how he talks about himself in third person like he's above actually getting hands on with the project.

[ispano6]

At least Fernando learned that blaming a partner publicly, isn't the right way to resolve the problems. I think he should leave McLaren, and make a full season with the Andretti team.

If Alonso didn't crash his car the crew might have found a good set up in time, so he did no favors to his team. Simply leaving McLaren is not going to get Alonso a full-time seat at a front running team either. Andretti might have obliged while McLaren were still partnered with Honda, but there is no such obligation now.

It seems a bit rushed to have Bob Fernley appointed President of McLaren Indy in November and expect him to have a winning contender car by May. Maybe Zak just needed to hire a disposable fall guy as insurance. Maybe Seidl is feeling a bit more pressure now to save face for McLaren at Monaco? Will we see Zak Brown at Monaco now that they won't be participating in the Indy 500?

[santos]

If Alonso didn't crash his car the crew might have found a good set up in time, so he did no favors to his team. Simply leaving McLaren is not going to get Alonso a full-time seat at a front running team either. Andretti might have obliged while McLaren were still partnered with Honda, but there is no such obligation now.

It seems a bit rushed to have Bob Fernley appointed President of McLaren Indy in November and expect him to have a winning contender car by May. Maybe Zak just needed to hire a disposable fall guy as insurance. Maybe Seidl is feeling a bit more pressure now to save face for McLaren at Monaco? Will we see Zak Brown at Monaco now that they won't be participating in the Indy 500?

A crash can happen. And a the team must be prepared for that. But for Mclaren, it was more important to have a car in the right shade of papaya than at the circuit in case of something went wrong. They weren't prepared to race, all the project seemed a bit made in a rush. And with the resources and money they have, it's a big embarrasment for the company.
If Alonso wants to win the Indy 500 he should knock the door of Andretti or Penske. And Mclaren should built a team to make a full season.

[BrunoH]

yap, Zak seems to be good at marketing... but the rest looks sub-par, Failing to qualy for Indy is one of the greatest failures in Mclaren history

[101FlyingDutchman]

I think the biggest thing is to get the gearing so wrong that you have a 229mph car that can only achieve 227. Amateurish!

[jjn9128]

Indycar to use the Red Bull Aeroscreen (original concept merged with the halo) from next year. IMO it looks good! Could it have a future in F1?





Images from Red Bull technologies.

[subcritical71]

Indycar to use the Red Bull Aeroscreen (original concept merged with the halo) from next year. IMO it looks good! Could it have a future in F1?

https://www.redbulladvancedtechnologies ... 0x1620.jpg
https://www.redbulladvancedtechnologies ... 0x1620.jpg
https://www.redbulladvancedtechnologies ... 0x1620.jpg
https://www.redbulladvancedtechnologies ... 0x1620.jpg
Images from Red Bull technologies.

Actually, I believe this is a step up, safety wise, from the halo. It looks like they have incorporated both the halo and original aeroscreen solutions into one. While I don't like it aesthetically, I would have to say that it may do a better job than then current halo does, especially at smaller debris that could bypass the halo and impact the driver.

I could see the FIA/F1 adopting this.

[jjn9128]

Actually, I believe this is a step up, safety wise, from the halo. It looks like they have incorporated both the halo and original aeroscreen solutions into one. While I don't like it aesthetically, I would have to say that it may do a better job than then current halo does, especially at smaller debris that could bypass the halo and impact the driver.

I could see the FIA/F1 adopting this.

The only thing I find interesting is that Indycar initially rejected the halo for reasons of "visibility" on ovals. It looks like this device may be taller to counter that, but it seems to be a reversal on that position.

[santos]

Does the intake of the engine, is above the head of the pilot in indy car? If a F1 car had a aero screen as tall like this, would air still be able to go the intake?

[Jolle]

Indycar to use the Red Bull Aeroscreen (original concept merged with the halo) from next year. IMO it looks good! Could it have a future in F1?

https://www.redbulladvancedtechnologies ... 0x1620.jpg
https://www.redbulladvancedtechnologies ... 0x1620.jpg
https://www.redbulladvancedtechnologies ... 0x1620.jpg
https://www.redbulladvancedtechnologies ... 0x1620.jpg
Images from Red Bull technologies.

The biggest problem with a screen like this for F1 is rain, which on ovals they don’t have to deal with.

[subcritical71]

The biggest problem with a screen like this for F1 is rain, which on ovals they don’t have to deal with.

I can actually see rain being an issue in both IndyCar and F1.

[jjn9128]

Does the intake of the engine, is above the head of the pilot in indy car? If a F1 car had a aero screen as tall like this, would air still be able to go the intake?

The engine air intake on an indycar goes through the sidepods. Could move the intakes around on an F1 car as there's no need for it to be high for ram pressure with forced induction. Could put it atop the sidepods like the F3 (formerly GP3) car, or in a similar place to the Sauber split sidepods.

[FrukostScones]

while a windscreen looks cool, it is not cool to look through another visibility barrier.

and this set up is a coaster close to closed cockpit racing.