2019 [R09] Austrian Grand Prix, Spielberg, 28-30 June

[TAG]

On a side note, the 2019 specification of tires allowed pushing until the last laps from the race leaders. In the searing heat.

Think Horner and Mattia still want the 2018 spec?

Can anyone imagine the blisters on 2018 spec tyres in such heat? Of course Horner would have been happy to have those tyres here.

Agreed, unfortunately hypocrisy only works in one direction and has a short memory.

[JordanMugen]

Think Horner and Mattia still want the 2018 spec?

Definitely!

They want this tyre advantage over Mercedes at every race, not just when track temp is 55 deg C.

It's a glimpse of how it could be, if the tyres suited Ferrari and Red Bull better by being easier to warm up. [And conversely, Mercedes would overheat them with their chassis that is harder on tyres.]

[MtthsMlw]

u/Maximilianf1

[Shrieker]

https://twitter.com/F1/status/1145354715061993472

"He turned in on me !"

Yes Max, he turned in on you, and when he saw you there, straightened out his wheel to avoid contact. And then you proceeded to be a merciless ...tard and gave him no space; in fact a little 'nudge' to throw him out of the track. If this was done to you, you would be hounding them in the pit lane, confronting them to try punch them in the face or something

[Shrieker]

https://streamable.com/p1bt2

I think this hammers the nail on the head. Clear cut penalty, the rule says you must leave a car's width.

[flexcon]

https://streamable.com/p1bt2

Epic. Thank you for posting.

I'm a neutral and I find this a tough one to decide myself but that video certainly helps in suggesting that Max did barge through there.

And What's so annoying is I really think he could have done it cleanly. Man even if he just gave another few cm so there was 'Just" a car gap there then it would have been Magic.

I'm disappointed Max took the "Magic" out of his run with this messy ending.

Great Race

[astracrazy]

Think Horner and Mattia still want the 2018 spec?

Definitely!

They want this tyre advantage over Mercedes at every race, not just when track temp is 55 deg C.

It's a glimpse of how it could be, if the tyres suited Ferrari and Red Bull better by being easier to warm up. [And conversely, Mercedes would overheat them with their chassis that is harder on tyres.]

Anything else ferrari and red bull have done a bad job at? Then we can change the rules more to advantage them.....

We cant just change rules to disadvantage teams that have done a good job for those that havent.

[Shrieker]

https://streamable.com/p1bt2

Epic. Thank you for posting.

I'm a neutral and I find this a tough one to decide myself but that video certainly helps in suggesting that Max did barge through there.

And What's so annoying is I really think he could have done it cleanly. Man even if he just gave another few cm so there was 'Just" a car gap there then it would have been Magic.

I'm disappointed Max took the "Magic" out of his run with this messy ending.

Great Race

Concurred. That wasn't the ending he, Leclerc, and the race deserved.

[dans79]

Yes Max, he turned in on you, and when he saw you there, straightened out his wheel to avoid contact. And then you proceeded to be a merciless ...tard and gave him no space; in fact a little 'nudge' to throw him out of the track. If this was done to you, you would be hounding them in the pit lane, confronting them to try punch them in the face or something

Actually, I think you should watch the steering movement closer. Max was pretty smooth and it looks more like Charles is the one who made the aggressive movements.

[Shrieker]

Yes Max, he turned in on you, and when he saw you there, straightened out his wheel to avoid contact. And then you proceeded to be a merciless ...tard and gave him no space; in fact a little 'nudge' to throw him out of the track. If this was done to you, you would be hounding them in the pit lane, confronting them to try punch them in the face or something

Actually, I think you should watch the steering movement closer. Max was pretty smooth and it looks more like Charles is the one who made the aggressive movements.

The heli cam is very telling. Lec turns in and then clearly backs off to avoid contact, while Max just cuts him off despite having all the space in the world on the inside.

[falonso81]

Why are even people trying to defend this. Its a clear cut "forcing another driver off the track" and as Fernando would say "All the time you have to leave a space. Ok?"

[mclaren113]

Yes Max, he turned in on you, and when he saw you there, straightened out his wheel to avoid contact. And then you proceeded to be a merciless ...tard and gave him no space; in fact a little 'nudge' to throw him out of the track. If this was done to you, you would be hounding them in the pit lane, confronting them to try punch them in the face or something

Actually, I think you should watch the steering movement closer. Max was pretty smooth and it looks more like Charles is the one who made the aggressive movements.

The heli cam is very telling. Lec turns in and then clearly backs off to avoid contact, while Max just cuts him off despite having all the space in the world on the inside.

Telemetry will be looked at for sure by the stewards

[flexcon]

Don't forget that this corner has 2 main racing lines.

Neither seemed to be better.

The higher line, Late turn in gave great traction out of the corner up the hill with less traction limited wheel spin.
The early turn in gave a faster corner speed.

Depending on the car and driver, neither seemed to be best.

In this case it gives the opportunity to race into this corner. Max took the early turn in, as he has done the previous 4 laps. In fact, on the previous lap he left space on the outside for Leclerc as he was on HIS racing line - racing line 2 the higher one. Fair racing

This controversial move is different. Max gave Leclerc no room at all. He was NEXT to him on the track and not ahead when they completed the corner

This I think is the important part - COMPLETED CORNER,

Stage 1 entry Leclerc is ahead
Stage 2 Verstappen ahead (Lower early corner turn in)
Stage 3 Exit Leclerc and Verstappen together. Verstappen does not have the corner at this point.

What an ending though

[Moanlower]

Yes Max, he turned in on you, and when he saw you there, straightened out his wheel to avoid contact. And then you proceeded to be a merciless ...tard and gave him no space; in fact a little 'nudge' to throw him out of the track. If this was done to you, you would be hounding them in the pit lane, confronting them to try punch them in the face or something

Actually, I think you should watch the steering movement closer. Max was pretty smooth and it looks more like Charles is the one who made the aggressive movements.

Max was pretty smooth on deliberately missing the apex, run wide and then slowly calculates his steering movement so that Lec was forced off track. Lec was of the opinion that he'd get at least the most outside of the track as the rules say. You hava to leava da space.

[dans79]

Max was pretty smooth on deliberately missing the apex, run wide and then slowly calculates his steering movement so that Lec was forced off track. Lec was of the opinion that he'd get at least the most outside of the track as the rules say. You hava to leava da space.

Yet the stewards have been ignoring that for years on the exit of the turn when the inside car is even a little ahead.