2019 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 12-14

[jz11]

https://youtu.be/QdalHDSQRDk

as much as I love him, gotta say he went full murican in this one, and I'm pretty sure he didn't watch the GP this thread was dedicated to

[digitalrurouni]

The engines were never at 1,000 HP. The power is actually more modest than people think.
The peak power from the units haven't changed as drastically as some think, what has change a lot is how long the engines can run at maximum power output, and also the power band, and use of the ERS.
I suspect currently 950 hp is the most we will see from these units.

So since these cars rev so much less compared to the previous V10/8/12 era engines, in those days afaik torque was non existent just about lol so they had to keep those things in a very narrow rev band. These motors while not making a 1000 hp but being so much more fuel efficient but revving lower I am betting they are WAY more torquier? Do you guys have rough numbers about that torque?

[Jolle]

The engines were never at 1,000 HP. The power is actually more modest than people think.
The peak power from the units haven't changed as drastically as some think, what has change a lot is how long the engines can run at maximum power output, and also the power band, and use of the ERS.
I suspect currently 950 hp is the most we will see from these units.

So since these cars rev so much less compared to the previous V10/8/12 era engines, in those days afaik torque was non existent just about lol so they had to keep those things in a very narrow rev band. These motors while not making a 1000 hp but being so much more fuel efficient but revving lower I am betting they are WAY more torquier? Do you guys have rough numbers about that torque?

Power = torque x revs, so yes.

[Just_a_fan]

"Torquey engines" feel like they pull from low down (because they produce more power low down). As these engines are designed to run at lower revs from the outset, they'll have to feel torquey compared to the old rev-monsters, simply because they produce their power lower down the rev band.

When we hear pundits - looking at David Coulthard here - go on about the engines having loads of torque, they really mean that they produce lots of power low down. It's the same thing, just we use "torque" to describe low end power and "power" to describe high end power. My guess is because in road car reviews, there is a history of giving the peak torque and peak power figures and their associated revs. If an engine produces twice the torque at a given revs, then it can be said to produce twice the power at that same point. Which is why "torquey" engines pull well from low down.

In reality, these F1 engines aren't torque-monsters at all, they just seem to be compared to the old V8s etc.

[OO7]

I've just been watching Bottas' Pole lap with telemetry (provided by Juzh) and the speeds around Silverstone are insane! The slowest part of Brooklands, (usually described as a slow corner in itself) is taken at 110mph. Becketts (the slowest part of the Maggotts & Becketts complex) is taken at 144mph, the minimum speed through Stowe is 155mph! I haven't included Abbey, Farm Curve or Copse as these are taken flatout without lifting. Spa on the other hand only has one fast corner by comparison, Pouhon and this year it may be completely flatout so wouldn't count.

[OO7]

Thanks for the videos Juzh. I really appreciate you taking the effort to put these up. Do you happen to have Hamilton's 2017 Pole lap with telemetry?

[Juzh]

Thanks for the videos Juzh. I really appreciate you taking the effort to put these up. Do you happen to have Hamilton's 2017 Pole lap with telemetry?

https://streamable.com/2mxh9

[OO7]

Thanks for the videos Juzh. I really appreciate you taking the effort to put these up. Do you happen to have Hamilton's 2017 Pole lap with telemetry?

https://streamable.com/2mxh9

Thankyou.

[etusch]

Max Verstappen vs Sebastian Vettel