2019 German Grand Prix - Hockenheimring, July 26-28

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Re: 2019 German Grand Prix - Hockenheimring, July 26-28

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Bill_Kar wrote:
26 Jul 2019, 20:12
Capharol wrote:
26 Jul 2019, 20:02
F1ern wrote:
26 Jul 2019, 19:58

Where is the 1 second gap?
I said ALMOST ... i know reading is hard
Lewis his lap 24 (1.18.3)
Leclerc Lap 23/24 (1.19.0/1.19.1)
On the softs, Ferrari was faster than both Bottas and Hamilton.
wrong, Vettel was faster as Hamilton (slightly) but Hamilton was faster as Leclerc (minimal)

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What were the temps during FP2? I've been knee deep with work today and didn't have to dig in. If it's hot and still this close with times, I fear that cooler temps and rain will make this weekend a walk in the park for Merc.
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Re: 2019 German Grand Prix - Hockenheimring, July 26-28

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Every weekend apart from Austria is a walk in a park for Merc!

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Capharol wrote:
26 Jul 2019, 17:29
Pyrone89 wrote:
26 Jul 2019, 17:12
cplchanb wrote:
26 Jul 2019, 16:24
gasly probably nailed his own coffin just now with his off.
Yeah, unless he impresses in the race here or in Hungary I think they will replace him after the summer break.
as much as i ike the idea..... with whom shall they replace him? kvyat? don't think so, because kvyat is not and will not be ready for RB ever in his life, to much pressure he can't handle and we will see the Torpedo back
Albon? to fresh, no experience ....to soon (as it is for gasly)
so whom shall be sitting in the 2nd RB?
Kvyat will be great.

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foxmulder_ms wrote:
26 Jul 2019, 21:03
Capharol wrote:
26 Jul 2019, 17:29
Pyrone89 wrote:
26 Jul 2019, 17:12


Yeah, unless he impresses in the race here or in Hungary I think they will replace him after the summer break.
as much as i ike the idea..... with whom shall they replace him? kvyat? don't think so, because kvyat is not and will not be ready for RB ever in his life, to much pressure he can't handle and we will see the Torpedo back
Albon? to fresh, no experience ....to soon (as it is for gasly)
so whom shall be sitting in the 2nd RB?
Kvyat will be great.
no it won't be... "old habits die hard"

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shin wrote:
26 Jul 2019, 20:53
Every weekend apart from Austria is a walk in a park for Merc!
But we're starting to have some excitement for third place!

Then there is the F1.5 battle that could swing this week with updates.


But yes super boring season for the things that matter most.

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Capharol wrote:
26 Jul 2019, 20:16
Bill_Kar wrote:
26 Jul 2019, 20:12
Capharol wrote:
26 Jul 2019, 20:02

I said ALMOST ... i know reading is hard
Lewis his lap 24 (1.18.3)
Leclerc Lap 23/24 (1.19.0/1.19.1)
On the softs, Ferrari was faster than both Bottas and Hamilton.
wrong, Vettel was faster as Hamilton (slightly) but Hamilton was faster as Leclerc (minimal)
You might be right, but I remember Ham doing some weird laps (a couple of 1.21), I'd swear Bottas was doing similar laps with Leclerc, just slightly slower.

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The 1st session times said it all on the harder compound for Merc. With new upgrades and engine updates they'll be running to test and gather data. They'll want to win their home GP..... I'll be shocked if they don't.

If the weather is bad tomorrow we probably won't see them show their hand until qualifying but then Red Bull will come into play and it's a case of timing and the best lap.

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shin wrote:
26 Jul 2019, 20:53
Every weekend apart from Austria is a walk in a park for Merc!
Yeah, Bahrain and Canada, they really ran away with those races...

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f1316 wrote:
27 Jul 2019, 01:18
shin wrote:
26 Jul 2019, 20:53
Every weekend apart from Austria is a walk in a park for Merc!
Yeah, Bahrain and Canada, they really ran away with those races...
Would that be the same Canada where Hamilton was shoved so far up Vettel’s backside that Vettel felt uncomfortable and had to wriggle and went totally off track and cocked up? That Canada?

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f1316 wrote:
27 Jul 2019, 01:18
shin wrote:
26 Jul 2019, 20:53
Every weekend apart from Austria is a walk in a park for Merc!
Yeah, Bahrain and Canada, they really ran away with those races...
Doesnt make his point less valid. He didnt say its a walk in the park because of the W10, he said every race is a walk in the park for Merc.

1. Almost every race the W10 is clearly the fastest car
2. If something does happen, such as Ferrari having a rare pace advantage there is always the good old Ferrari strategy mess-up, pit blunder or driver error to safe them. Just last race Bottas was saved by Vettels torpedoing of Max.

Just 1 time have they been beaten and that was due to a cooling design problem in extreme heat circumstances, which accordimg to Bottas is now pretty much fixed.
True GOATs don’t need the help of superior material to win.

Tom Brady, Usain Bolt are true GOATs.

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Raining now, more rain for the morning but expected to be dry for qualifying. Again rain on sunday morning but dry for the race. Looks like F1 is going to dodge wet running again, or as Vettel would say: ‘honestly?’
True GOATs don’t need the help of superior material to win.

Tom Brady, Usain Bolt are true GOATs.

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Pyrone89 wrote:
27 Jul 2019, 01:37
Just 1 time have they been beaten and that was due to a cooling design problem in extreme heat circumstances, which accordimg to Bottas is now pretty much fixed.
They were crushed in Bahrain. I'm not sure how you can describe that race as 'a walk in the park'.

If you rule that every race Mercedes win because a faster car didn't deliver as 'a walk in the park' then that also applies to every other team when they win a race. 'Ferrari win? Walk in the park'. 'Red Bull win? Walk in the park'. 'I don't know why people rate Verstappen, all his wins were a walk in the park'. The examples given previously invalidate the point because, in order to ignore them, the point itself becomes meaningless.

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Pyrone89 wrote:
25 Jul 2019, 23:55
ENGINE TUNER wrote:
25 Jul 2019, 23:41
Sieper wrote:
25 Jul 2019, 19:17


Yes he is a great driver, as is (amongst many other feats) proven by his record against any opponent he went against in the same car. But merc has had a big power advantage since 2014 which they always used for driving with more downforce. That’s a big advantage to have in the rain.
So what stopped his teammate from accumulating a similarly impressive record?
Nothimg apart from them being less talented than those drivers. But the point is there are a number of drivers more talented than Bottas and Rosberg in the wet and those drivers could have had the same record if in Hamilton’s position, making it not some godlike achievement it is made out to be here.

In fact I think the following recent drivers would 100% have the exact same wet record as Hamilton’s Merc wet record when in his position:
1. Verstappen
2. Alonso
3. Button

Not to mention the number of drivers that are likely to be better in the wet than Rosberg and Bottas yet may have lost 1 or 2 at most (Vettel, Kimi, Ricciardo etc)


I am gonna exclude Norris and Russell because they have yet too prove themselves.
Button is not a good wet driver. Neither is alonso. What button did was to know when to change between an intermediate and slick tyre. If on the same tyres with hamilton or any other car of similar ability he was beaten. Button was very observant and patient letting the race come to him. Maybe a skill he developed from his triathalons. But by no means a good wet driver. You can check the hilight reels. As for alonso, no long explanation needed. He is not good at all in the wet. 60% of the time he will spin on a curb or fall off track. Max is better in the wet than two above. Bottas is in fact better in the wet than all these 3. Watch his wer races to appreciate that he has very good car control in slippery conditions.
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selvam_e2002 wrote:
26 Jul 2019, 16:33
not good for Gasly. He will not be racing RB next year. They will replace him.
Not if he gets a good result here. I think the crash was good for him to find the limits and push hard like max does naturally.
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