2019 German Grand Prix - Hockenheimring, July 26-28

[dans79]

Having watched Lewis's on board pole lap, it was a very scruffy lap.



While the softs were faster, it seems like no one could get them to last an entire lap.

[godlameroso]

Mercedes far far ahead (and this was in the 39 degree heat which they dont like, so expect it to be more tomorrow)
https://scontent-amt2-1.cdninstagram.co ... tagram.com

If you take that as a meaningful representation of pace over 67 laps, you have a lot to learn little buddy. It's ok, you'll see tomorrow.

Little buddy?

Much to learn? I watch F1 since 1999

And all responses to your post are saying the same: you are saying things that are contrary to the data at hand. All data point to Merc having a clear race pace advantage and they start on the preferred tyre (Max just now confirmed he wanted to start on medium too in Ziggo interview). And instead of taking back your words you start hitting out at people who point you to the facts.

Ps: I am supporting Max and RBH too, but I am being realistic that in the race P3 will likely be the maximum result unless Verstappen goes into magic zone again.

I was watching when Senna was still racing for Lotus, but that's irrelevant. The fact is since Austria, the RBR has taken a clear step forward, and has closed the gap to both Ferrari and Mercedes. Honda has said they don't have as strong a qualifying mode as Mercedes or Ferrari, however we have seen that the race pace is there. Again, you will see tomorrow.

[Pyrone89]

Just a thought about Bottas on days like this. When you have to DRIVE the car, it's where his gap to Hamilton is greatest. We know there are some drivers that can squeeze just a little more out of a car that isn't in the perfect window, adapt their style to suit. I would have loved to have seen Leclerc's lap, I believe there would have been less than a tenth between them, despite Mercedes being down all weekend.

I'm hoping for rain tomorrow because a performance between Hamilton and Verstappen in the wet for an entire race would be sublime.

Imagine giving Verstappen and Hamilton the same car. Mouth watering stuff every quali and race.

[Pyrone89]

If you take that as a meaningful representation of pace over 67 laps, you have a lot to learn little buddy. It's ok, you'll see tomorrow.

Little buddy?

Much to learn? I watch F1 since 1999

And all responses to your post are saying the same: you are saying things that are contrary to the data at hand. All data point to Merc having a clear race pace advantage and they start on the preferred tyre (Max just now confirmed he wanted to start on medium too in Ziggo interview). And instead of taking back your words you start hitting out at people who point you to the facts.

Ps: I am supporting Max and RBH too, but I am being realistic that in the race P3 will likely be the maximum result unless Verstappen goes into magic zone again.

I was watching when Senna was still racing for Lotus, but that's irrelevant. The fact is since Austria, the RBR has taken a clear step forward, and has closed the gap to both Ferrari and Mercedes. Honda has said they don't have as strong a qualifying mode as Mercedes or Ferrari, however we have seen that the race pace is there. Again, you will see tomorrow.

Dont get me wrong, I HOPE you are right and that I can say tomorrow: godlamaro you were right, because I have the feeling we both want Max and Honda to win. So lets hope I have to swallow my words tomorrow.

[godlameroso]

Having watched Lewis's on board pole lap, it was a very scruffy lap.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh2pzFreJ9k


While the softs were faster, it seems like no one could get them to last an entire lap.

He did 7,8,9,10 and 11 better than anyone else, pole was just the result of that.

[godlameroso]

I think the tire situation is different this round. The medium tire is already marginally too hard for this track. The hard will have a hard time coming up to temperature in the front

[zibby43]

Having watched Lewis's on board pole lap, it was a very scruffy lap.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh2pzFreJ9k


While the softs were faster, it seems like no one could get them to last an entire lap.

Toto was quoted as saying that they are happy with the upgrades and that all of them have delivered, but they are not happy with the performance.

Toto said they need some time to best understand how to "tune" and setup the car with the new package.

[dans79]

Having watched Lewis's on board pole lap, it was a very scruffy lap.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh2pzFreJ9k


While the softs were faster, it seems like no one could get them to last an entire lap.

He did 7,8,9,10 and 11 better than anyone else, pole was just the result of that.

He had moments on the exit of 2 & 8, so it could have been better!

[godlameroso]

The exit on 8 help him set up 9, you can easily gain or lose .3 seconds in that sequence alone. And the fastest line is counter intuitive, you have to sacrifice a little speed on the exit of 8 to get the fastest exit through 9, as you carry that advantage all the way to Sachs curve.

Turn 2 Hamilton goes too far left on the exit, he could carry more speed through 3, by having a tighter entry on 2.

[zibby43]

Bottas just claimed a few minutes ago he was running with a damaged car today. Anyone else have details?


https://twitter.com/ValtteriBottas/stat ... 69059?s=20

[godlameroso]

Bottas just claimed a few minutes ago he was running with a damaged car today. Anyone else have details?


https://twitter.com/ValtteriBottas/stat ... 69059?s=20

Likely damaged the floor, it's very easy to do that in turn 1 and the stadium section.

[Restomaniac]

So we have a clear Driver fan and a clear Engine manufacturer fan who just wont see the facts as they seem to be. Please guys don’t get ahead of yourselves.
Can I just ask that if usual service is established tomorrow that they aren’t too upset.

[RZS10]

Bottas had some issues with the brakes https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/bott ... g/4502202/

[etusch]

Just a thought about Bottas on days like this. When you have to DRIVE the car, it's where his gap to Hamilton is greatest. We know there are some drivers that can squeeze just a little more out of a car that isn't in the perfect window, adapt their style to suit. I would have loved to have seen Leclerc's lap, I believe there would have been less than a tenth between them, despite Mercedes being down all weekend.

I'm hoping for rain tomorrow because a performance between Hamilton and Verstappen in the wet for an entire race would be sublime.

Imagine giving Verstappen and Hamilton the same car. Mouth watering stuff every quali and race.

Which same car?

[etusch]

Bottas just claimed a few minutes ago he was running with a damaged car today. Anyone else have details?


https://twitter.com/ValtteriBottas/stat ... 69059?s=20

Can this new chassis be a bit fragile?